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Do you believe in life on other planets?

East Texans ponder the age old question on whether we're alone in this universe.

November 12, 2009 - 8:29am

Tyler—

East Texans answer back when asked if they believe in life on other planets.


14 comments

I believe there is Life every where-other than our Human Vision.
As a Human we have limits as what we see and what we hear.
You hear many stories of people seeing Goast and Hearing Something by themself.
I agree
Years ago I did see a Goast at the end of my bed and it slowly went away.
Andy

Andy Rhue

5 months ago

Eureka! It truly is most reassuring to finally discover that other intelligent life forms like (Susanna, Thomas and Religious Historian) actually do exist here behind the radical fundamentalist pine curtain of East Texas. What an uplifting, warm and welcome relief after having tirelessly endured so many years of constantly being barraged, persecuted and aggrieved by the relentless scourge of tyrannical jesus hucksters and the rest of their pious ilk.

One need only read but a few of their vindictive, senseless, spurious attacks, biased obscenities and gutteral, rabid, pre-neanderthal level, intellectually-challenged jibberish and venomous, toxic poisonous excrement being hurled at you and others who don't roll over and submit to the insane mandates of their harsh and unwarranted, oppressive belief system. Many Kudos to you for your gallant voices and display of chivalry. You are wise beyond your years and have definitely proven your case beyond a shadow of doubt. Were it not for the precious few and cognizant folks like yourselves, there would not be much optimism remaining for this planet along with its copious fatuous inhabitants. The rest of humanity would still be suffering through the fascist Dark Ages, with its savage, vindictive, divide and conquer mentality, baseless inquisitions, unjustified persecutions, superstitious doctrine, book burnings and witch hunts. It is profoundly sad and unfortunate that so many around this neck of the woods choose to forever remain uninformed and irreversibly afflicted with self-imposed delusion, dementia, herd mentality, spite, bitterness and hatred toward any of their fellow men and women who so valiantly dare to excogitate and step outside of the theosophical box.

Regarding whether there is proof of life on other planets, as our scientists predict is likely, I don't think it speaks one way or the other to the existence of a mono-theistic God. It might, however, require us to revise our ideas about our place in the universe, and the nature of the divine mystery, but it does not necessarily compell us to believe anything other than what the evidence tells us--namely, that in all probability there is life apart from us.

Many Christians have fallen into the trap that the authority of their adherent Abrahamic religious dictate rests on scripture and staunch unwavering faith, so that if decreed scripture is even somewhat contradicted in the least little way, it seems to disrupt their fragile paradigm and undermine the whole redemption project. Scripture has already been contradicted by voluminous amounts of well-researched, scrutinized, documented and cross-referenced scientific evidence--i.e., the sun does not go around the earth, all religions and religious belief systems derived from ancient sun worship which was practiced among the various primordial cultures, the earth is much older than 6,000 years, the earth is not the center of the universe, the earth is not flat, evolution along with the evolution intervention theory as posed by Lloyd Pye, steady state and plasma theory is an undeniable fact.. all of this is confirmed by at least a dozen or more sciences. Even with the indesputable fact that science contradicts the scriptures in many details does not make scripture completely invalid in every other respect, however. (Score one for the Christians, Amen?) If someone has proven you wrong on some minor point in an argument, it does not make you wrong, wrong, wrong in every aspect of your entire life, so why would it be so in scripture? It's only those who take the absurd view that scripture is either 100% valid and True or it is False, who are going to have a hard time with the concept of extra-terrestial life. I can tell you from personal experience from having debated with such people, they will simply not accept any of the "proof" and will stubbornly deny it to their last dying breath, much like they do any mention of the evolution theory, the big bang, the electric universe theory, cyclic universe, inflation theory, the evolution intervention theory, the aspect of divine consciousness, etc.

This is an absolute shame because you don't have to be 100% right in order to be right. Science, after all, only requires 95% statistical confidence in order to accept a finding. In law you only need a "preponderance" or "clear and convincing" or beyond a "reasonable doubt." Nowhere in human life do we require 100% certainties. Nonetheless, there are some who do believe that scripture gives them 100% certainty in their beliefs. And because they do not believe that there is any possibility that they are mistaken, (Oh My! God forbid... How dare anyone have such devil-inspired and demonic thoughts... Why... You evil, unorthodox heretical blasphemers!!! Burn in Hell...Arghh!!!!!) they immediately close their minds off to other people and become most offensive and obnoxious in character. (And, most assuredly of course, they become genuinely maddened and enraged when others do not follow the rest of the obedient flock and believe just as they do.)

So, it all boils down to not much more than that... Those who believe in a long-haired, bearded savior will still believe in one no matter what, and those who don't won't.

Those who believe otherwise will make room in their personal belief for the fact of life on other planets, or then again they'll deny that life on other planets exist, regardless of the overwhelming evidence. And probably the proof, at least early on, will be highly technical and prone to multiple interpretations. Can anyone doubt that the furor will be less than that over say, global warming or socialist healthcare?

Those who currently don't believe in a masculine larger-than-life, noble redeemer will not take the discovery of extraterestrial life as an indication of a heroic, supreme being and so for them there will be no philosophical crisis - except for that small subset of people who feel that our being alone in the universe is that very condition which makes life here on earth so very special.

Einstein's theory of relativity does not invalidate Newton's Laws of Physics, rather, it simply places them in a larger context. It extends and deepens our understanding of them. As science opens the universe to us, we should allow that understanding to place our religious beliefs in a larger context. In my view we should be reasonable-minded and willing to embrace this unfolding of the divine mystery rather than vehemently resist and deny it.

This is a shame because you don't have to be 100% right in order to be right. Science, after all, only requires 95% statistical confidence in order to accept a finding. In law you only need a "preponderance" or "clear and convincing" or beyond a "reasonable doubt." Nowhere in human life do we require 100% certainties. Nonetheless, there will always and forever be those who do believe that their particular narrative of biblical Scripture gives them 100% certainty in their beliefs. And because they do not believe that there is any possibility that they are mistaken, they will savagely close their minds off to other people. (And, of course, they will always predictably snap and lose their temper, become fervent, outraged, spiteful and venomous-tongued toward others who do not blindly believe as they do.)

Another Persecuted Free Thinker

5 months ago

Religious historian - what an ignoramus you are! I bet mommy was proud of you?

David

5 months ago

Why would some omnipotent, loving and all-knowing God create human beings of such ill manner and disposition? Why then does the all-powerful Lord of the cosmos need to engage in human sacrifice in order to fix his creature, poorly created by him in the first place? Can the Almighty not just snap his fingers and change humanity? If mankind's original sin is removed via a mystical and supernatural scapegoat ritual, i.e., the sacrifice of Jesus, why cannot some other mechanism equally as supernatural be utilized, such as that snap of the fingers? The Christian baptism too is supposed to remove magically the taint of original sin, but, as we can tell from the state of the world, this mystical mumbo-jumbo has little to no effect. If baptism were effective why conduct a brutal, bloody and barbaric human-sacrifice ritual, murdering God as his own son?...

To those who know the true nature and potential of the human being, this "born-in-sin" propaganda ranks as calumny, slander and libel, pure and simple. Human beings are not born in sin, and therefore there is no need for a savior of any kind. It is by this crippling belief in the first place that humanity becomes sickened enough psychologically and spiritually in order to need a savior to fix it. In other words, the religion creates the disease and then provides a "cure," which in reality is no cure at all but serves as a placebo designed to keep mankind enthralled to the same ideology for all eternity, if possible.

Worldwide, hundreds of millions of people have been led to believe that God is a Jewish or Arab man, because of the origins of scriptures through the minds of Jewish men (Bible) and Arab men (Koran). However, in other parts of the world, "God" is perceived as having a different ethnicity all together and not as a Jewish or Arab man. And an inhabitant of a remote island doesn’t even know that the Jewish or Arab god exists.

The idea that God wrote the Bible, Koran or other scripture, spoke only to individuals of a particularly ethnicity, admires and rewards them, mated with a woman and had a son of a specific ethnicity, raised up a prophet of a certain culture, is not a reflection of divine revelation at all but of complete and utter despotism, ethnic bias, racism, sexism and egotism.

Despite the strides made in the past centuries, in this day and age non-religionists and freethinkers still remain under heinous assault from religious fanatics and maniacs who would terrorize and enslave us given the chance—and they continue to attempt to silence us with laws designed to make criminals of us if we object to their fabled, archaic, brutal and backward religious doctrines. The global political entity called the United Nations is currently being hijacked by such would-be spiritual enslavers, who want to outlaw "defamation of religion" and to silence critics with "antiblasphemy laws" straight out of the Dark Ages.

I do not wish to see true human civilization fall to these plotters who would subjugate us all—and make no mistake about it, that is their goal, as it has been for many centuries. Their religious terrorism and mania—their desire to enthrall you under their spiritual tyranny—represent defamation of your religion. Stand up for your liberty, freedom and enlightenment, and do not let these subjugators take them away. There is strength in numbers, and we currently have the numbers to defeat the religious terrorists—let us use them wisely and with all due haste.

All in all, intelligent, healthy people do not go along with ideologies and organizations that have as a large part of their history vicious and violent persecutions of others whom they deem to be "strange" and "demonic." No sane person proudly declares him or herself to be a member of the Nazi party, but billions are mighty pleased with belonging to and supporting other murderous and barbaric institutions and ideologies, demonstrating that a large percentage of the human species is both brainwashed and mentally ill. And only a psychopathic "god" would be interested in such behavior.

The point is, why belong to any of these ridiculous and bloodthirsty cults? Just be a person. Any god that would require such beliefs, which make people stupid, as is evidenced by the sanctimonious persona displayed by 'David the Vindictive' with his rant towards others, or such behavior, which is vicious and evil, is not a god at all and is certainly not worthy of serving in any way, shape or form. And those who do worship such a vainglorious and psychopathic tyrant are, indeed, mentally unstable.

If humanity is to survive the next century, it simply must drop all these divisive ideologies and become enlightened to the formless, genderless truth behind all creation, so that it will know that all is one and that it is one family and one being.

Let us also emphasize using wisdom because, while we want to inspire people to be passionate in their protection of themselves against tyranny, we ourselves do not want to produce tyrants. This fact rates as the naked truth. When humanity comes to this understanding at last, then and only then can we ever stand any chance of having anything that remotely resembles peace on earth.

Alice the Agnostic

5 months ago

First of all the title should have read, 'Do you believe there is life on other planets.'

And yes I do. God/Gods would not waste their magnificent creative expression on just one spot in the vast universe. It's that closed minded thinking by religious types that keeps true reality suppressed. It was the same kind of thinking when Galileo the tried to tell the public the world was not the center of the solar system. The church silenced him infact put in jail.

So here we go again the scared Jesus freaks hoping for the big Christmas gift at end of days, too afraid to expand their thinking. Perhaps,God could so love the universe that he/she created many sons/suns.

Creation is a divine expression of LOVE. Yes, there are many, many, many conscious beings throughout the Universe! Amen!

Susanna

5 months ago

Life on other planets? Why would we even speculate on that subject? Earth is the only known planet with life giving water. I would like the "BIG-BANG" theorists to explain how it got here. One suggestion is that massive blocks of ice entered our atmosphere. That's a lot of ice, considering no other planets got hit with this life giving substance. I have an extraordinary idea. Maybe God did do it!

David

5 months ago

Lee - I recommend that you see a psychiatrist. Also, please take some English classes.

David

5 months ago

Short answer, no mumbo jumbo - yes.

Kenny

5 months ago

Do you believe in life on other planets? yes, i can think of plenty of people who should be sent to other planets.

dwood

5 months ago

Call - Duty Modern WarFare I just got done playing this game last night, in fact I have all the call duty games. I feel first it's a game not life, I would say that if moms and dads feel this is not a game there kids should have or play or even see then that's what they need to. It's is a little more violent then the past games and since things are happening with our troops Here over seas that this would not be good for ANYONE who can understand this is a game NOT real life. Also I was in the Nevada Air Gaurd from 1975 - 1978. I missed going to war in that time, form this game helps me understand what went on that I didn't have to, I went thought a gulit of not going to fight.
I have to tell Charlotte sorry for my last comment, that was hard for her to read on air, I hope this time is easyer to read.
Lee

Lee

5 months ago

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