'Last night, we watched America die.'

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POSTED: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 - 5:30pm

UPDATED: Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 2:44pm

Local Republicans and Tea Partiers respond to Obama victory

Tuesday night, a little after 10, the race was called for President Obama.

Smith County Republican party chair Ashton Oravetz had one thought.

"Oh no!  Because it really was a sad event.  Because even though after some other things, I was still hoping that he would do it.  I knew that we weren't gonna get the senate but I thought he could probably pull it out and I was sort of surprised that he didn't," Oravetz said.

Oravetz tells KETK, Romney just wasn't the best candidate. 

He never tackled the President enough on Obamacare or even the situation in Benghazi...but Oravetz was still holding out hope for a Romney presidency.

"I think we made a decision last night that's not gonna be undone.  We've decided to go on the road of socialism and...you know, I really ache for my country," he said.

KETK spoke with Tammy Blair with the Tyler Tea Party.

Also, not in the best of moods.

"Last night, we watched America die.  It is clear that a majority of Americans do not share the values of liberty," Blair said.

Blair says the establishment republicans chose a moderate candidate that was unelectable.

Blair says as far as Texas goes, many are realizing secession may be the only solution.

She says the Texas Nationalist Movement website was popular wednesday.

So the question is, what now?

"Stop being mesmerized by Washington.  It's broken, okay?  Broken beyond repair.  We need to focus on Austin.  There's where we can do something," Blair said.

"They have to go back to the roots and they have to stand for something," Oravetz said.

Blair also told KETK the Republican party is a problem.

She says if they're not going to be different, they need to go to the dust bins of history.
 

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Frankly, the very idea that we are somehow obligated to "obey" a president and/or a Congress that openly defy the clear limitations imposed by the Constitution is unmitigated evidence of shameful ignorance. Secession is how both the United States and Texas Republics were born. Secession is neither illegal nor "hyperbole" based on both US and TX founding documents which clearly state that people have a right-a duty-to change their government if it becomes destructive to their liberty!

Goodbye, Snydergal. I understand that it's difficult to "win this one" when you don't know the facts of what you're talking about. How is it that you are worried about freedom of speech given to all in the Constitution, but you aren't concerned about the other parts of the constitution that Washington D.C. has no regard for? We're exercising our freedom of speech, so are you. We're looking out for your rights and the rights of your children, but the KoolAid has blurred your vision.

Don, you're on your own on this site...we can't win this one, or even enlist moderation from the other side, no matter how hard we try. We live in a state that has a mindset that is becoming even more entrenched in the incendiary rhetoric posted below. Though freedom of speech is given to all in the US Constitution, apparently those who are not in lock-step with repubs are to be targets for hatred and not afforded this same freedom as the teavangelical ultra-conservative right.

"...it is the UNITED States of America...."
snydergal, your subject and predicate nominative don't agree in number. It should be "they are the United States of America." "States" is plural. How could you miss that? Could it be politics of language?
The states are to have their sovereignty. When the federal government doesn't act in accordance with the Constitution, the states have every right to dissolve the relationship. Jefferson encouraged that.
These u. S., as such, are ridiculous.
SECEDE!

"...it is the UNITED States of America...."
snydergal, your subject and predicate nominative don't agree in number. It should be "they are the United States of America." "States" is plural. How could you miss that? Could it be politics of language?
The states are to have their sovereignty. When the federal government doesn't act in accordance with the Constitution, the states have every right to dissolve the relationship. Jefferson encouraged that.
These u. S., as such, are ridiculous.
SECEDE!

Our constitutional republican form of government is gone. We have a democracy ruled by an popularly elected oligarchy for lack of a better way to describe it. My complaint is not about the good in this country. It's about the almost complete destruction of our civil liberty, our economy and our currency by a government that was formed to protect it. Secession is the ONLY way to restore the Rule of Law...I don't expect you to understand or agree but at least respect my American right to dissent.

I'm not in the Tea Party, but I support those people for their courage! Unlike many of you, they are the true Americans...they have actually taken the time to learn our true history and about our founding that they recognize the extreme danger we are all in. You should be ashamed of yourselves! It is obvious that you haven't, or you would see how indoctrinated and dumbed down you are!

At the end of WWII there were 54 recognized countries. At the end of the 20th Century, there were 192 recognized countries. Since I am not aware of any NEW land masses being discovered, that means that 138 other places exercised their rights to be Independent. It's not only possible... it's inevitable.

Well, of course it is obvious that most of the voting public is poorly informed, or blissfully ignorant of the real issues...Otherwise, how on earth could they vote to reelect an individual who has eroded freedom and placed such an economic burden on our future that it would be difficult to convince an objective observer that we were not trying commit suicide on a national level. It's not about Romney, really. People need to protect their future. If DC can't, Maybe we can from Austin.

The US is broken & broke, the debt & give-aways are unsustainable.We can't fix it. There are 49 other states that think they know what is best for Texas...Texas knows what is best, & what works for Texas. There are now more Takers than Makers. I want to work hard, help others and be left alone to praise God, not boo Him. The Us is failing, why should Texas be brought down when we don't have too. Texas Now! Texas forever!

I agree with Ms. Blair. Texas has no choice but to secede. We saw in this election that BOTH parties are full of corruption - from Obama's obviously corrupt administration to Romney disenfranchising many duly elected representatives at the RNC just to keep Ron Paul's message from being heard. Truth is.. MOST Texans feel the same way as Ron Paul. The US is BROKEN. If there is any chance for freedom, Texas is the answer.
And yall are welcome to join us.. or continue down the socialist path!

I agree with Ms. Blair. Texas has no choice but to secede. We saw in this election that BOTH parties are full of corruption - from Obama's obviously corrupt administration to Romney disenfranchising many duly elected representatives at the RNC just to keep Ron Paul's message from being heard. Truth is.. MOST Texans feel the same way as Ron Paul. The US is BROKEN. If there is any chance for freedom, Texas is the answer.
And yall are welcome to join us.. or continue down the socialist path!

Texas has an obligation to defend it's citizens and one of those ways is through secession. I think as an independent sovereign nation we could be so much better off. The federal government through both the Republicans and the Democrats has grown too large and too oppressive. I do not feel like a free man and I don't want my children to have to live like that. Secession can and should be done peacefully. It's up to the federal government to respond accordingly.

I am absolutely amazed and astonished at the level of uniformed, misinformed people. The United States of America is now on the road to at best Socialism. To be soon followed I fear to communism. Call me what you will... and you probably will, because that is the juvenile mindset of Democrat/Progressives, but we are about to see the largest migration of power from the people to the centralized techno-crats in Washington we have ever witnessed. In a few short years you will understand.

Secede from the socialist

Where is it and how much?

I respect your opinion but you need to respect their opinion which you did not. You say this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. In my opinion for what is worth, this is the DIVIDED STATES OF AMERICA. Obama got a little over 50% of the vote. That is divided vote. I respect the POTUS but not the man in it. He has refused to secure our borders. He has given aliens (ILLEGAL THERE FOR CRIMINALS) rights. He has told Arizona he will not pickup illegals from Arizona which is the governments job to do so.

The USA isn't a Democracy, it's a Republic...or used to be until Lincoln and his gang of inappropriately named "Republicans" came along now it's a Police State/Nanny State with a population that thinks concepts like 'secession' and 'nullification' are "Un-American"!
Y'all need to pull your heads out!

By the way, the POTUS is a Narcissistic Sociopath.

Snydergal, I have not heard anyone ask you to "move out now" and I will defend your right to an opinion with my last breath. Having said that, history tells us that a peole will not long suffer the indignity of a Government being thrust upon them from far away. Texans voted against this administration by almost two to one so we have a right to see that as oppression. Further, the founders of America saw it exactly the same way when they left the oppression of England. We will be a free Republic!

What folks seem to have a hard time realizing is that the United States ceased to exist the moment the federal government began to refuse to limit it's actions to those which are in it's enumerated powers. See Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution. Those 18 things are all it is lawfully permitted to legislate or control. At the same time that they are exceeding their lawful powers, they are failing to perform the duties they are REQUIRED to do by law like protecting the border from invasion!

In case no one ever told you, which is likely, THE STATES MAKE THE FED not the other way around, we are a part of the United States by mutual consent and may separate ourselves from it at any time and as Texas is now being used as a "cash cow" by those duly elected boneheads up in the District of Criminals it would be to our benefit to call it quits.

One day people will wake up,but it will be too late. They will get what they voted for.

Last Night We Watched The T-PARTY KILL THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE GOP LOST SEVERAL OF THE 2010 T-PARTY CONGRESSMAN AND SENATORS.

The T-Party is out of step with most Americans and died last night.

""Last night, we watched America die. It is clear that a majority of Americans do not share the values of liberty," Blair said."

Horse crap.
What is clear, is that Tea Party extremism has marginalized the entire GOP.
What is clear, is that alienating LARGE segments of the voting populace, is not winning strategy. What is clear, is that you can't legislate your religious beliefs.
What is clear, is that the GOP is unlikely to learn any lessons, which will restore them to a party of meaning.

Which TEA Party goal is extreme?

Is it fiscal responsibility?
A constitutionally limited government?

Or is it: Supporting Free Markets?

Those are the three goals of the TEA Party in spite of what you may believe. Which of those are 'extreme'?

I suppose that's why they brushed off Ron Paul and his supporters,eh? Most of them wound up voting for Gary Johnson or just stayed home like the other 94 million "no shows"!

The absurd hyperbole and ugly threats of igniting a Civil War sum up the reason why Romney lost the election.

Americans, by nature are moderate people and extremists make them nervous.

No rational person can think of any policy of the Obama administration that justified the overheated ravings of Republicans and led them to the conclusion that no matter how disappointing Obama's first term, he was still a better choice than the putting a right wing fanatic in the White House.

This has nothing to do with religion or the tea party! While I have my strong personal values and beliefs, I don't think any of that is relevant to this discussion about Texas Independence. (which is certainly legal to do) The deeper, unbridgeable chasm between Texans and the regime is D.C. is this; Texans should decide what is best for Texas! We will not long suffer an oligarchy is Washington dictating every move we make. The Constitution should have prevented this, but liberals killed it!

The only threats of a civil war were all of the Obama supporters threatening to start riots if he lost. I cannot find any other group threatening violence. Do you have any links to share?

They could have done the RATIONAL thing and voted for Gary Johnson but must people seem hell-bent on proving Einstein's definition of insanity to be accurate!
The only real difference between Romney and Obama is one of them is a Mormon.
The election was actually between Gary Johnson and Goldman Sachs!

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