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Man Claims Frankston Police Violated his Rights
May 31, 2009 - 11:03am
FRANKSTON - One man has decided to take legal action against the Frankston Police Department for what he calls foul play, and he says he has the surveillance video to prove it.
On May 15th David Weigand says he and a couple of friends made the trip from Frankston to Tyler for a relaxing dinner with friends.
One of his friends who went along was an officer for the local bank in Frankston and gave Weigand permission to park his company vehicle in this parking lot for the night.
This is the red pick up he left parked in the private lot, with Bowtech, the largest archery manufacturer written on the side.
Weigand said he never expected what would unfold over the next several hours.
After finishing up dinner in Tyler, Mr. Weigand said he got a phone call from some of his friends who headed back earlier.
They told him the Frankston Police Department had broken into his car and they were towing it away.
Frankston Police told Weigand they found weapons and alcohol in his car.
The weapons were a pellet gun and a bow, the alcohol, he says, was an unopened can of beer.
The Frankston Chief of Police declined an interview and says the officers were just doing their jobs.







Violating your civil rights? They had your truck towed. Go ahead and sue the City of Frankston. You'll spend more money in legal fees than you did getting your truck out of impound.
As for you Mr. Santiago, you need to get your facts straight. Frankston police are not "highly untrained." They are experienced officers with more than adequate training and education. TCLEOSE says so that is why they are licensed peace officers in the State of Texas. The officers that night made a bad judgment call. We've all made at least one in our respective careers. Of course Chief Folmar is going to defend his officers. Any boss worth his salt will back up his employees 100%.
Regardless of the fact that the weapons in the truck are legal, they are still weapons! Yes it is legal to carry these weapons in your vehicle or while walking down the street. Any officer is still going to stop you to find out why you are carrying a potentially lethal weapon. You guys are saying they don't work accidents, like that's a big deal. Smith County S.O., as big as they are, don't work accidents. Smith County calls DPS.
GLS, your baby story doesn't add up. If the baby had a seizure, stopped breathing, and then the parents call 911, presumably wait for the ambulance, panick, "run" to the police department, and then wait for an ambulance again (this whole time the baby is still not receiving any oxygen) the chances of him/her being revived, short of a miracle, are zero. As for your son, if you were so concerned with your son's safety you would have tried harder to get a police officer to take a report and investigate. You would have done whatever if took to keep your son safe, including handling the matter yourself, but you didn't you let it go. You have no credibility so please stop applauding.
Mr. Wiegand, you had alcohol in your company truck. You should treat that truck like it is your office not your personal vehicle. In the future if you do not want anyone towing your truck, may I suggest you park it in your driveway. Or if you want to get really crazy, park it in a friend's driveway. Not in a bank parking lot, especially with weapons and alcohol in plain view.
You act like your civil rights have been horribly violated. There are people everyday who suffer greatly at the hands of overzealous officers. By you making a big deal out of this minor situation, you are minimizing their plight. Your 15 minutes are up. Why don't you chalk this up as a learning experience, and the officers involved will learn from this as well and everyone can move on with their lives. There are actual crimes in Frankston that need to be investigated. You are wasting the time of an already overworked, understaffed police department.
Jackie Brown
9 months agoActually the truck owner’s civil rights were violated horribly. What Frankston Police did is no different than a law enforcement agency coming into your home without a search warrant, conducting a search and seizing property illegally. As a veteran law enforcement officer, I am offended and embarrassed by their actions. Any well trained cop, with more than a police academy education would know that this is more than a foolish rookie mistake and can not and should not be ignored, it degrades the profession.
A department administrator who backs his officers for wronging the public is not "worth his salt". You should not condone their wrong doing or support them in doing so, when they have done a wrong,discipline them, show the public you care about the damage, no matter how small you think it may be. An administrator can’t back illegal or scrutinizing activity by an officer, that’s just crazy to expect in the law enforcement field, we are held at a higher standard. As for legal fees, there are too many well named and respected civil rights lawyers just waiting to take this case pro-bono.
And, yes Frankston Police are inexperienced and highly untrained, they hold the minimum required by TCLEOSE, in the law enforcement field that is highly untrained. Meeting just the basics does not cut it in today’s society. Again, no fault of the officers, the city and administration should learn from this, train their officers beyond basics, so they will know better in the future.
Ray
9 months agoI have read each comment here. I have stayed quiet until now. Truthfully, some have no bearing on the matter, while others do. Mr. Santiago is absolutely correct in his breakdown and interpretation of the law and police powers on private property. Being an 18 year veteran law enforcement officer, who lives in the area, I will tell you, the last thing I want to do is bash a law enforcement agency, but Frankston Police has pulled some real embarrassing stunts in the past years. Filing Public Intoxication instead of DWI, let the suspended DL and No insurance violators drive off and ignore family violence, you can’t do these things, you took and oath to protect the state and her citizens, the job is not that hard, if you don’t want to do it and the paperwork, find another career, plain and simple. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t pass the blame on the officers as much as I do the administration, both departmental and city. These guys receive the minimal training by state standards, nothing else and that is a shame. There is an abundance of free or government paid law enforcement training to ignore it.
Frankston PD has a Field Training Program that consists of a week or so ride around with another inexperienced officer, learning bad and dangerous habits. I would be surprised if the training officer has had FTO, instructor or management training, this being no fault of the officers, but this is such a liability. The guys are tactical unsafe, but again, they have not been trained otherwise. After the pursuit and shooting incident several months back, you would think one would learn. To this day, these guys are still not checking out with a dispatcher until after they make contacts, this will come back to haunt them and the city one day. Again, just a lack in training, you do not know any better unless you are taught correctly. The department combined probably does not have 15 years full time street experience, when I say street experience, I don’t mean bailiff, jail or reserve time, I mean full time paid street patrol officer time. This being the city administrations fault, which by the way is not much better, but that’s another story in its self.
Goodman Wrecker service did nothing wrong. He was acting under directions from a law enforcement agency, case closed.
The items seized were not illegal to possess, even in a vehicle, you can walk down the street with these items lawfully. They were seized illegally under search and seizure laws. Just read the 4th Amendment of the US Constitution, FPD was wrong. The letter of the law is black and white, the department committed the offense of Burglary of a Vehicle and violated many constitutional protected rights of the vehicle owner. Yes, the bank, which I bank with, does allow citizens to use the parking lot after hours and as a “park & ride” lot. No, there are not signs saying other wise. Even if signs were present, law enforcement could do nothing unless called by a property representative, they still could not tow the car or open it, could only ask the vehicle owner to leave if present at the property owners request. The property owner must tow the truck at the owner’s expense. Law enforcement does not have the authority to do so. The officer had every right to drive through, check the vehicle and even log its information and registration information through his dispatch center, but he stepped over the line, outside the scope of his powers and duties when he had the vehicle opened, seized property and towed the truck. Just check the many opinions of the State Attorney General and Federal Courts on this. “You Can’t Do It”. I don’t care who you are.
A good idea would be to file an open records request on departmental training records to include FTO training and firearms. Also have the Departments last 90 days in car videos reviewed for other public trust violations. The public is entitled to most of this information. I would also verify the information they provide. Contact the Tyler FBI office Civil Rights Division and get a real good lawyer. City insurance, TML will try to settle for a minimum amount, sort of nuisance settlement, they always do, don’t take it, take this one to federal court. It is an open and shut case of civil rights violations. Its time these “wanna be” law enforcement agencies are made to answer for their actions. They make the rest of us look bad. I would love to see the police incident report for this call. Best of luck to you Mr. Wiegand Liability
Ray
8 months agoI will copy the report and put it on this website tonight. It will be verbatum.
David Wiegand
David Wiegand
8 months agoRegardless of almost anything argued here, with the exception of Santiago's last comment, they had no legitimate reason to tow the truck. Period. It was on private property, and the bank did NOT call to have it towed. I'd like to know what the FPD's "official" reason was...
David, what does the police report actually say about that?
Stephanie Nalls
8 months agoI was down in Frankston the other day. I got robbed in broad daylight by a purple elephant while the cops watched. See how that works...I can say anything I want on here and obviously it is the honest to gods truth. Seriously...does anyone care that this guy got his car opened and towed from a private parking lot in the middle of the night. I am not in law enforcement, but I do know that I can't park my truck in front of any business, especially a bank, that has it posted that all unauthorized cars parked in the lot after normal business hours will be towed. Lost in this story is, where's the bank's statement...maybe they don't have one becuase they didn't tell this guy that he could park there. I would not have opened his car, but I would have had it towed.
Jason Littlefield
8 months agoSir, I was with a bank officer at the time and definitley had permission to park here. There were no signs stating that "vehicles will be towed after hours" or "no parking on bank property" Etc.
The bank officers, president etc. gave no prior authorization to the Frankston, PD to tow parked vehichels. Thank you. For any other questions or for the full story. I will be happy to email anyone out there!
David Wiegand
davidw@bowtecharchery.com
David Wiegand
8 months agoJason,
No sir, you can't say anything on here you want and make it the truth.
I am in law enforcement,and for your educational information law enforcement can't tow from private parking lots or any private property for that matter. The owner of the business or property must have the vehicle towed at the vehicle owner's cost.
Also, the parking lot in front of the bank is used as sort of a park and ride area for folks traveling to work in Tyler. It's not odd to drive by and see a few cars parked there during the evening.
I have personnel information the Bowtech rep. did in fact have dinner with a bank officer from the bank and had permission to park there. The public doesn't need a statement for that at this point. That information can be covered at trial, if it goes that far.
If you have the truck towed from private property as a peace officer you are wrong, if you tow as owner your ok. The story is here, the bank didn't call the wrecker, FPD did. That's why its such a big deal. This was an illeagl search and seizure of property violating this man's Contitutional Rights.
Yes, we do care this man had his property burglarized by the police. My mother, and I'm sure many other viwer's mother's, travel through Frankston on a daily basis. Are they going to stop my mother and tow her car because she carries a gun, or purchased a bow for my Christmas present? It's just a simple fact of knowing your job and the law peace officers are expected to know.
Christopher Santiago
8 months agoI'll have all of you know Goodman & Son is a great wrecker service. The driver in the video was going with what the police were telling him. Which was probably some lame story, and maybe he shouldn't have towed the man's truck, but don't down the wrecker service in this story. They have a good reputation and it needs to stay that way.
The fault of this issue is on the FPD, not Goodman & Son.
kc
8 months agoI am sure Goodman was doing his job but he is an opportunist. He shows up and tries to tows vehicles even though they don't have to be. I had to get the Police to ask him to stop trying to load my car when the bumper was the only thing off! Grief, I had to stand there and plead my case with Goodman just for him to rudely tell me that is up to the officer. I use Sharp Towing now for anything I need.
donna
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