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POSTED: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 6:37pm

UPDATED: Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 2:53pm

Be careful with that Obamacare.

Even this week, Health and Human Services director Kathleen Sebelious said this mess is going to cost you more money. Now there is another "sugarplum" out there even liberal sites have discovered and it shocks them. Through Obamacare, you may be forced into Medicaid.

You say, "fine, I don't care, whatever. I'll get a better price on my insurance, maybe, whatever it takes."

The following is from The Seattle Times and Cain TV:

It's called "estate recovery" and although it's been around for 20 years, most Americans have never heard of it. Sadly, this arcane bit of Medicaid fine print is about to become much more familiar. Basically, what it says is this: If you're over 55 and are on Medicaid, when you die the state can seize your assets in an effort to repay the cost of your care.

In the past it didn't affect too many people, because "asset tests" were included in the Medicaid enrollment requirements. The bar varied significantly from state to state, but the gist of it was that if your assets rose above a certain level you were disqualified, regardless of your income.

However, that was before the President signed his "signature legislation." Now, the requirements for Medicaid have been simplified to allow more low income non-elderly people onto the rolls. As a result, folks with low incomes - but substantive assets - are suddenly finding themselves trapped in a situation where they have no choice but to sign up for Medicaid.

But, it's OK, we get free birth control pills and the promise of a $2,500 savings, which never, ever happened and will never happen.

That's my point of view, what's yours?

You can email me at pov@ketknbc.com or Facebook me at KETK Neal Barton.

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This is funny. Don's desperately trying to justify a law he knows is bad, but he's so vested in the hope it succeeds (or he's afraid of his union bosses if he doesn't support it) that he's grasping at straws to justify it. And Sheila is having fun mocking him, but again he's so vested in it he can't see it.

It's not his Union that keeps Don a believer in Obama, it's his race. -And OJ was framed.

It's not his Union that keeps Don a believer in Obama, it's his race. -And OJ was framed.

This is funny jpttm is desperately trying to justify lies being told to East Texans by the local media. Jpttm, you can believe all the lies you want. You can be a sheep if you chose too but I do not need to justify anything to anyone. I just simply prove that East Texas news outlets do selective reporting that is not based in FACTS or the truth. East Texans have a right to be informed of the FACTS even if you, SJ, deaf and Neil do not like it. Merry Christmas moderator and East Texans.

I worked for the worlds largest retail corporation for 10 years. They had a PPO insurance plan administered by Blue Cross. There was a subrogation clause in our health plan. Which means they did the same thing Medicaid does. If you get a settlement for an injury you reimburse the PPO for all expenses. Check out this story about Deborah Shank's experience with subrogation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK78JskYuiE

First, this is an op-ed piece, not held to the same standards as a news piece. Second, just because you don't agree or want to accept, doesn't make it untrue.

States impose "estate recovery" laws enacted by each state not the Federal Government or Obama as Neal Barton implies in this op-ed piece which makes it an implied lie in an op-ed piece. As the The Seattle Times stated the Affordable Care Act allows states to change their "estate recovery" laws to include those who were not covered under Medicade in the past but now qualify. It is funny that people like you do not think that not telling the whole story or not telling the truth is not a lie jp.

Approval Ratings for ACA and President Obama Climb In Latest ABC News Poll
By: Justin Baragonamore from Justin Baragona
Tuesday, December, 17th, 2013, 10:07 am

Public approval for the ACA shot up six points from November.

Approval Ratings for ACA and President Obama Climb In Latest ABC News Poll
By: Justin Baragonamore from Justin Baragona
Tuesday, December, 17th, 2013, 10:07 am

Public approval for the ACA shot up six points from November.

Tuesday, December 17, 2013
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 47% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama's job performance.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administra...

Up from November (41%).

Tuesday, December 17, 2013
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 47% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama's job performance.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administra...

Up from November (41%).

Why did you not report the FACTS & the TRUTH Neil? You know the FACT that you chose not to report that The state of Texas could amend its estate recovery policy to avoid “unintended consequences” for people who enroll in Medicaid for health care under the expansion made possible by the Affordable Care Act.

Why did you not report the FACTS & the TRUTH Neil? You know the FACT that you chose not to report that The state of Texas could amend its estate recovery policy to avoid “unintended consequences” for people who enroll in Medicaid for health care under the expansion made possible by the Affordable Care Act.

WHY DOES TEXAS REPUBLICANS NOT PROTECT TEXANS LIKE WASHINGTON STATE DID?

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/healthcarecheckup/2013/12/16/state-will-ch...

WHY DOES TEXAS REPUBLICANS NOT PROTECT TEXANS LIKE WASHINGTON STATE DID?

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/healthcarecheckup/2013/12/16/state-will-ch...

The Seattle Times health-care team tracks the local impact of the Affordable Care Act.
December 16, 2013 at 6:17 PM
State will change asset recovery policy for Medicaid enrollees
Posted by Carol M. Ostrom
The state issued notice Monday that it will amend its estate recovery policy to avoid “unintended consequences” for people who enroll in Medicaid for health care under the expansion made possible by the Affordable Care Act.
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/healthcarecheckup/2013/12/16/state-wil

The Seattle Times health-care team tracks the local impact of the Affordable Care Act.
December 16, 2013 at 6:17 PM
State will change asset recovery policy for Medicaid enrollees
Posted by Carol M. Ostrom
The state issued notice Monday that it will amend its estate recovery policy to avoid “unintended consequences” for people who enroll in Medicaid for health care under the expansion made possible by the Affordable Care Act.
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/healthcarecheckup/2013/12/16/state-wi

States' Choice and States' Rights if Texas Republican / T-Partier Law Makers and Governor do not want to impose TEFRA liens on recipients’ , they can pass a law to exempt Texas citizens. That is the Law.

States' Choice and States' Rights if Texas Republican / T-Partier Law Makers and Governor do not want to impose TEFRA liens on recipients’ , they can pass a law to exempt Texas citizens. That is the Law.

Under this program, the state of Texas may file a claim against the estate of a deceased Medicaid recipient, age 55 and older. Claims include the cost of services, hospital care and prescription drugs.

Under this program, the state of Texas may file a claim against the estate of a deceased Medicaid recipient, age 55 and older. Claims include the cost of services, hospital care and prescription drugs.

That is what I said and what the Law says SJ

On March 1, 2005, Texas implemented the Medicaid Estate Recovery Program (MERP) in compliance with federal Medicaid laws. The Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services (DADS) manages the program.
http://www.dads.state.tx.us/services/estate_recovery/index.html

On March 1, 2005, Texas implemented the Medicaid Estate Recovery Program (MERP) in compliance with federal Medicaid laws. The Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services (DADS) manages the program.
http://www.dads.state.tx.us/services/estate_recovery/index.html

Thanks for re-posting my post SJ

Thanks for re-posting my post SJ

States can waive estate recovery when it is not cost-effective, as defined by the State and made public through their official State Medicaid plan.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/estaterec.htm
NOT IN TEXAS

States can waive estate recovery when it is not cost-effective, as defined by the State and made public through their official State Medicaid plan.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/estaterec.htm
NOT IN TEXAS

some state laws protect the family home in an estate from some or all claims against it, including Medicaid claims.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/estaterec.htm
NOT TEXAS

some state laws protect the family home in an estate from some or all claims against it, including Medicaid claims.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/estaterec.htm
NOT TEXAS

glad you read my post SJ .... there may be hope for you yet

glad you read my post SJ .... there may be hope for you yet

If a state has elected to impose TEFRA liens on recipients’ homes, then it must also recover from the estates of those recipients. States may impose liens on property of Medicaid recipients of any age if they are permanent residents of a nursing home or other medical institution, and if they are expected to pay a share of the cost of institutional care.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/estaterec.htm
DO YOU SEE THAT.....STATE IMPOSED

If a state has elected to impose TEFRA liens on recipients’ homes, then it must also recover from the estates of those recipients. States may impose liens on property of Medicaid recipients of any age if they are permanent residents of a nursing home or other medical institution, and if they are expected to pay a share of the cost of institutional care.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/estaterec.htm
DO YOU SEE THAT.....STATE IMPOSED

You are getting better at cutting and pasting the truth SJ . Keep re-posting and reading my post and the truth will set you free.

You are getting better at cutting and pasting the truth SJ . Keep re-posting and reading my post and the truth will set you free.

Recoveries may only be made from the estates of deceased recipients who were 55 or older when they received Medicaid benefits or who, regardless of age, were permanently institutionalized. However, states may exempt recipients if their only Medicaid benefit is payment of Medicare cost sharing (i.e., Medicare Part B premiums).

If a state has elected to impose TEFRA liens on recipients’ homes, then it must also recover from the estates of those recipients.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/e

Recoveries may only be made from the estates of deceased recipients who were 55 or older when they received Medicaid benefits or who, regardless of age, were permanently institutionalized. However, states may exempt recipients if their only Medicaid benefit is payment of Medicare cost sharing (i.e., Medicare Part B premiums).

If a state has elected to impose TEFRA liens on recipients’ homes, then it must also recover from the estates of those recipients.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/e

Now you are an expert at re-posting the truth SJ

Now you are an expert at re-posting the truth SJ

This is nothing new & began when Medicade began in 1965. LEGISLATIVE HISTORY
Since the beginning of the Medicaid program in 1965, states have been permitted to recover from the estates of deceased Medicaid recipients who were over age 65 when they received benefits and who had no surviving spouse, minor child, or adult disabled child. Twelve states report having had an estate recovery program in effect before 1990 that was based on the original Medicaid law.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/e

his is nothing new & began when Medicade began in 1965. LEGISLATIVE HISTORY
Since the beginning of the Medicaid program in 1965, states have been permitted to recover from the estates of deceased Medicaid recipients who were over age 65 when they received benefits and who had no surviving spouse, minor child, or adult disabled child. Twelve states report having had an estate recovery program in effect before 1990 that was based on the original Medicaid law.
http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/e

What .... you could not even cut and paste my post correctly SJ? How in the world can you not spell the word "This" correctly when cutting and pasting?

We could sum it up in the equation; Government = Enemy of the family, for what other answer could any American citizen conclude where suicide is a valid option for relief.

We could sum it up in the equation; Texas Government = Enemy of the family

Obamacare is a crackerjack scheme! A new surprise every week!

I hear now the unions have just found out that if you are obese Obamacare will up your insurance rate!

Obese, smoker, drinker, all will have their rates raised!

So you can;'t keep your insurance, can't keep your doctor, can't keep your hospital, and can't keep your money!

Hope for change in 2014. Vote every Democrat out for the Democrats are who voted for Obamacare in the first place.

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