Neal Barton's POV

Let's get on with it

POV

POSTED: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 - 6:51pm

UPDATED: Sunday, May 8, 2011 - 5:14am

As I said Monday, a tip of the hat for President Obama for pulling the trigger on the bin Laden raid.

Yes, I've heard all the theories that it was really Leon Panetta that made the call and on and on. But, if this attack would have been a disaster It would be President Obama's baby.

The late JFK used to say victory has many fathers, defeat is an orphan. But, one thing that should be brought to bear- and Leon Panetta the head of the CIA didn't deny this- waterboarding was used to get vital information to get OBL.

I don't know know why some are so against a technique that probable saves more American lives and lives all over the world. Waterboarding is not cutting off fingers and beatings with a hose. It has no permanent effects.

There are other modes of interrogation that include sleep depravation and making people stand for long periods of time. But, if those techniques have to be used to save any of you in the KETK audience, I'd use it in a heartbeat.

It's so ridiculous  It's ok to kill a terrorist, but wrong to waterboard him? Something is wrong with that argument.

There is no wonder why we can't get anything done in our nations capitol.

Now, everyone is trying to take credit. I'll tell you who needs to get the credit. The United States of America, that's who.

Please, let's get out of the sandbox and work on this economy now.

That's my point of view, what's yours?

You can email me at pov@nbc56.com

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If terrorist are determined to "bring-down" America then, what could they do that is any more effective than our government is doing now, and with the media's help. With unprotected borders what need to invade with armies when a foreign millitary complex can simply assemble anywhere they chose. Why has our enemy been the same as that which the Russians could not defeat, Afghanistan? Why do we seek to controll poppy? Why were we told an airplane struck the pentagon, when was Osama really killed?

UPDATE: More details emerge here: "What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound."

I was told – in these exact terms, “we overruled him.” (Obama) I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.” There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so. President Obama was, in this case, working as an abentee President.

Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of.

A source indicated they believe Hillary Clinton had personally made certain the Vice President was made aware of that day’s events before the president was. The now famous photo released shows the particulars of that of that room and its occupants. What that photo does not communicate directly is that the military personnel present in that room during the operation unfolding, deferred to either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates. The president’s role was minimal.

News Flash; Attn Don,,,The U.N.'s independent investigator on extrajudicial killings has called on the United States to reveal more details of the raid on Osama bin Laden's Pakistan hideaway to allow experts to assess the legality of his killing. Looks like Obama is headed to the UN Gitmo for war crimes. Maybe they will ask for his Peace Prize Back. Don't worry, Just more inane babbling of your One-World Socialist Leader wanna bees who like Obama turn on their own when hungry and eat their young

See what happens when hollow men in their rush to grab credit and edify themselves for military operational details that should remain State secrets. This is one poor actor on the world stage of politics.

Our Non-Serving fearless Leader’s idea of a firefight is his duck and cover when any political spitball is hurled his way. So much for his promised Transparency in Government. It is NOT the Fog of war,,,Its the FROG OF WARTS who runs our military.

Don, All you LIberal mind manipulators can do is stick your finger in the air to see which way the political wind is blowing and take a poll for what to do. I hope you and your hero Obama keep doing this as you will miss the point that Leadership is doing what is best, not most polular for the people you serve, not them you. You and Obama can enjoy your 15 minutes of military fame earned by others but the voters will remember:

Sic Transit Gloria ( All Glory is Fleeting )

They not going to fix the economy. They don't want to, they don't know how. Neither our elected officials nor the american public really want to do what it would take to repair it. It would mean cutting social services and worse yet gvnmt spending on itself. It means gvnmt must start acting like servants and stop acting like aristocrats. And while the left is worse about this, the right is guilty to. We need real tax reform, and laws to limit how much gvnmt spends on itself.

How funny to be caught-up in Bin Laden's death now when any rational mind knew he was dead years ago. The faked mesages, later exposed, all served to keep the Saudi's loyal to our resolve to pursue him to the end. Remember those video's released that were later proved to be fakes, our media, the mouthpiece of a corrupt government. Look at all the traction the government gets from this, the war on terror goes well, the CIA is good, Obama's a hero. Kids with fresh pressed flags cheering, too funny

CBS News poll. May 4, 2011
The glow of national pride seemed to rise above partisan politics, as support for the president rose significantly among both Republicans and independents. In all, 57 percent said they now approved of the president’s job performance, up from 46 percent last month.

Yeah, but don't worry, he'll do enough in the next year and 1/2 to ruin it for himself. I have faith in him.

I am not a terrorist or even a criminal, but I suffered sleep depravation at the hands of the government. It's called military training and missions. It's perfectly legal to do it to us, but not right to do it to murderers and terrorists? Come on. The SEALs who got Osama have gone through a lot worse than waterboarding and sleep depravation. You can watch it on Discovery channel, I was able to witness it in person (just a witness, not a participant) while training at Coronado next to them.

Do not be mad because Obamas numbers will and have began to improve because of his actions. In the last two weeks President Obama has rubbed pie in the faces of the Republicans and T-Partiers by proving them wrong on the birth certificate and now by completing the mission that bush and the Republicans could not. I understand the fustration of the Republicans / T-Party looking like morons.

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