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More losing healthcare than gaining


POSTED: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 7:55pm

UPDATED: Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 4:11pm

The Washington Times reports House Speaker John A. Boehner predicted, Wednesday, that by the end of the month, more Americans will have lost their insurance by being kicked off existing health plans than the number who were able to sign up in the flawed online website.

And the early numbers may back him up. 

Kaiser Health News reported this week, hundreds of thousands of Americans have received notices from their insurers canceling their policies:

  •  300,000 from Florida Blue
  • 160,000 from Kaiser Permanente in California.

One industry analyst told Kaiser Health News the moves may be a way of insurers ridding their own rolls of costly consumers they don't want, and pushing those people onto the federal health exchanges.

One leading democrat, Steny Hoyer, wants more tax money to fix the website.

More, after half a billion.

Now we're calling in the best and the brightest? Where were they in the first place? They were probably fighting against this mess.

These folks who love "Obamacare," like Kathleen Sebelious and the president will not be signing up for it.

And Jay Leno had the best line:

"It's easier to sign up to be in Al Qaeda than "Obamacare."

That's my point of view, what's yours?

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What did President Obama lie about? You could have kept your insurance plan that you had prior to March 2010...they were all grandfathered. If you or your insurance company changed that policy it lost it grandfater status and if it was you who changed the plan you had prior to march 2010 it is safe to say that you did not like your plan to began with. So if you or your insurance company changed the policy you had after march 2010, whos' fault is it, the Presidents?

Listen up, folks...triangle head doesn't finish the sentence...when employers drop ins. for workers, it is because that ins. has become too expensive...enter the Affordable Heathcare Act...use online or phone application for CHEAPER healthcare insurance and BETTER

wow deaf, 5 million get better coverage and 30 million get coverage for the first time.

sounds real bad.

wonder how many millions would have been kicked out of their insurance plans for pre existing conditions if obama had not put a stop to that?

The only change to come will be a Democrat House and less T-Partiers in the Senate.

Latest truth to emerge about Obamacare; a total of two people enrolled on the first day, and only twenty-eight by the end of the second day. After two years of advertising this is solid proof that America does not support what has been shoved down their throats.

It doesn't matter how many signed up on the first day but how many did try to log in to shop.

That is what the website is , a shopping center and once you find what you want then you sign up.

you idiots think Obamacare is a website but citizens have been benefiting from it for 2 1/2 years already.

Those of you without insurance did not have to sign up on the first day you have till March to get signd up so happy shopping.

Funny how all of a sudden to you the numbers don't mean anything. What ever. But in the real market place of the world, If I had 4mil+people look at my product and less than 300 people purchased it, it tells me something is seriously wrong with my product. But we're not talking about the real world, were talking about liberal utopia. Hey, if this works it means there might be a chance we'll find the holy grail! My guess is we'll find the holy grail first.

must be a lie, you did not post a link that isn't from fox

hey don...

Now Obama has a 'shop if you are dropped' shtick. Yea sounds like Jessie Jackson,doesn't he?

So he lied to sell Obamacare (but to you liberals to lie to further your goals isn't bad, right?) and now gives the old switcherroo!

Hope for change in 2014.

Obamacare is a disaster by design. They've made no secret of wanting gov't only healthcare. And it isn't about providing for the less fortunate. It's about keeping them less fortunate and putting more in the less fortunate category.

Hey don...pete...

So now you see Obama regulations force insures to drop coverage case their insurance polices don't meet the 'requirements'. Over 5 million dropped and Sebelius just says she is so soorrryyy!

Yes Obama lied and healthcare policies died!

Next few years expect them to up the requirements and more insurance companies drop millions.

Why? To make a socialist one payers system, a bit at a time.

Hope for change in 2014!

How about an estimate 92 million once group/ employer paid policies are no longer legal once the grandfather clause protecting them expires.

Key word "estimate"


wow 5 million get better coverage and 30 million get coverage for the first time.

sounds real bad.

wonder how many millions would have been kicked out of their insurance plans for pre existing conditions if obama had not put a stop to that?

5 million who will have to buy more expensive insurance to cover things they won't ever need. 30 million, at least that's the number they're throwing around this week, that can't buy insurance because of a website designed to be a failure. It's my understanding that in most states pre existing conditions have been covered since the Hilarycare attempt.

If I take my car the shop to be fixed and find it was not repaired I take it back and expect the shop to fix it right at no additional cost ; it's call a warranty. So why are the taxpayers expected to pay more for the repairs to the website? Did the over $200 million contract not have any warranty clause?
Something STINKS here!

God protect us from contracting the disease of haughty know-it-all drivel that's infected the woman below...this gal could teach even loud-mouthed evil un-American ultra-dipstick teddy cruz how to make his ridiculous rhetoric even more so. You inject a seatbelt issue? You call public safety a wicked plot launched by mean old government in league with horrid insurance companies? You consider insuring the uninsured an unworthy program? Lady, stop making a fool of yourself!

Unfree at any speed. Americans lost their freedoms with the passage of the seatbelt laws. This law sealed the partnership between Corporate Insurance and law enforcement is a symbiosis that reduces costs for insurance companies and provides revenue for police depts. If we were to beat Obamacare it should have began then, when we were unaccustomed to government dictates. Now, Insurance has developed a business model that increases their bottom line while allowing the IRS a share of the loot.

Through Obamacare (Kaisercare), insurance expands their government protected actuarial's from seatbelt to anti-smoking; where govt. provided shoddy EPA science to overstep the personal freedoms of the individual in lieu of reducing costs in govt.'s Medicare program. You didn't really believe that the ACA , crammed-down by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, whose home district is where AETNA, and KaiserPermenente maintain their corporate offices, was pushing a law bad for insurance companies, did you?

George Kaiser, architect of Obamacare and Solyndra recipient, is Americas 10th richest man and BRAGS TO HAVE NEVER PAID AN INCOME TAX. Notice the non-profit tax deductible foundation behind this report, the same Kaiser of insurance fame, the Crony socialist who lives in Nancy Pelosi's district. We don't have a government, we're controlled by mobsters who cut-up the American citizen into so many pieces of the pie and feed off us. Don cannot see past Obama's race.

Could that be why Natalie Willis is now required to chose from more plans, because her old plan did not offer Coverage of Women’s Preventive Care as required under ObamaCare?



Deaf here is why these corporations and insurance companies may be dropping people.The Affordable Care Act (ACA) requires Non-Grandfathered health plans to cover specific preventive services without any cost sharing requirements such as co-payments, coinsurance or deductibles.Guidelines for Coverage of Women’s Preventive Care beginning on or after August 1, 2012.

When the tech glitches are ironed out for applying for health insurance under the Affordable Healthcare Act to cover the 15% of Americans who have no coverage, aren't all you tea swillers/repubs going to be madder than wet hens! Listen up folks, you are rattling your false teeth over 15%!! It is the AFFORDABLAE Healthcare Act...those dropped from existing plans can call the hotline and get AFFORDABLE insurance without impacting all the jokers who are making so much hate noise about it!

So many of you apologists commenting here just aren't keeping up with what's happening to people out there. After ACA was passed with stated conditions that would allow a policy to be grandfathered- those policies were changed by HHS without oversight, making millions of folks ineligible to keep their current insurance. Those changes have cost a bundle of folks increasing of up to 500% for their policies and thousands of % for deductibles. And tax breaks DO NOT cover the increases.

Bottom line deaf the ObamaCare and the ACA is here to stay no matter if you like it or not.

Just like prohibition, huh Don, another bad law that was tried and failed.

prohibition was also a law passed by the dominated republican congress and signed into law by a republican president....learn some history SJ. Republican economic and social policies have always hurt working class people and the economic standing of America

Don't like it SJ win some elections. Your party of no will not win very many elections in the next three Federal election. In Fact, there are 24 republican seats that were safe but are in play now because of ted cruz and the Dems only need 17 to take the US House in 2014. 2016 y'all will lose the presidential election due to ted & the t-party & the Dem that does win will be re-elected in 2020. Y-all might have a chance in 2024 if you drop those like ted cruz.

Where is the link to your claim that Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website and that it was a no bid contract?

In your 2nd link deaf, the doctor claiming his coverage was dropped because of ObamaCare stated "that hospitals tend to treat ER physicians as independent contractors, so he was not allowed to join his hospital’s group health insurance policy. He and his family elected to obtain coverage through his wife’s employer".
Which was the case prior to ObamaCare So how ObamaCare responsible for the hospitals policy on independent contractors?

Deaf from your first link, Natalie Willis never stated what rights that she was guaranteed that she lost. She just stated that she liked the insurance that she had but was now going to be required to chose from other plans. This was because her EMPLOYER is changing insurance not ObamaCare which requires MORE coverage to all plans for women than was required under policies prior to Obamacare.

One more news flash Don...

Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website (it was a no bid contract.)

So Don, how much fraud is in this? Is it gonna be another 'stimulus' were Green companies got billions and then folded leaving the executives with millions (and they were Obama donors?)

Hope for change in 2014.

Another news flash guys...

CBS Video: Obamacare Takes Away Woman's Health Care Choices

Dropped Coverage: One Cancer-Surviving Doctor’s Story in the Age of Obamacare

Yep, Obamacare cost more, delivers less, and denies choice.

Hope for change in 2014.. as in mid-term elections.

News flash Don and Pete...

UPS drops 15000 spouses from insurance roles.. cite Obamacare!
U.S. branch of Securitas some 55,000 employees from their insurance... yep Obamacare!
Home Depot & Trader Joe's dropped all their partime employees from their insurance.. again Obamacare.

And of course, the Obamacare website, the $300 million dollar soon to be 1/2 billion, is a sick joke.

TINSTAAFL. Obamacare is way to expensive for everyone, even if Obama promises it will cost less.

All of the above references that you made were decisions made by a corporation who descided to no-longer insure their employees which is first un-American...putting money above people. ObamaCare did not tell or make these corporations do what they did, that was their own decision.

UPS drops 15000 spouses from insurance roles.. cite Obamacare!

LOL....the spouses of UPS employees who could obtain health insurance through their own employers were no longer covered by UPS and those were also the spouses of non-union members. Having a contract means something. If the spouse of those 15000 spouses had joined the union they would not have been told by UPS to get insurance through their own employers. ObamaCare did not do that UPS did.

Let's look at some data issued today regarding applications received by the ACA hotline and internet site...700,000 applications for healthcare insurance have been logged in, not just inquiries, but actual applications. As for deaf, it sure does gall you to have a program that actually helps those who really need it, doesn't it?! The ACA will NOT impact you at all, should you have insurance, but will allow the 15% who don't to have that're STILL pathetic, deaf!!

Hey Don,

CAREFIRST is just dropping 76,000 Customers due to Obamacare today.

So what does that make those 25000 you say Perry somehow axed look like?

Hope for change in 2014.. as in mid-term elections.

They are kicking them off because they do not want to provide the higher level of care that is required under ObamaCare and those that the insurance company is kicking out of their company will be saving money too.

So Don,

Are you saying Obamacare will 'save money' by kicking millions off their insurance (or jacking up the prices 2x, 3x, 10x the amounts they pay now? Not talking 25,000 but millions of people?

And who voted for Obamacare Don? Democrats, that's who!

I am saying those who are being kicked off of their plans BY THE INSURANCE COMPANIES will get a better plan at a lower cost through the ACA....meaning they will save money.

Funny how rick perry hates ObamaCare but he and the republicans / t-idiots have kicked Texas sickest residents / Citizens with pre-existing conditions out of the Texas insurance and telling them to sign up for ObamaCare.

Those insurance companies are kicking those people off of their plans for the same reason the Texas legislature and Rick Perry kicked 23 thousand of Texas' sickest citizens out of the High Risk Pool, because it will save money under ObamaCare. Get that TEXAS and those in the high risk pool are both going to save money because of ObamaCARE. That is why Perry and the Repub. Tx. Legislature kicked them off of the insurance.

Obamacare will self-destruct.

And all those DEMOCRATS (no Republicans voted for it) will be up for election in 2014.

As you roll a stone, so shall it be rolled back to you.

Yup that is why 24 republican house seats are in play now that were thought to be safe re-elections in the next general election. Most Americans (74%) are tired of the republican lies and are smarter than Texas citizens.

Your right Don. Republican strategist live in a bubble. They're in denial about what's going to happen in the next election. Texans suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. 25% don't have insurance, 14% make the minimum wage, but they still vote Republican. Politics is controlled by PR people. Candidates are products, sold to the public like beer and lottery tickets. Ted Cruz is a good example. Most of what he's done this year has been to get free publicity for a Presidential run in 2016.

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