Neal Barton's POV

More VA fallout


POSTED: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 7:53pm

UPDATED: Friday, June 6, 2014 - 8:42am

Jim Geraghty writes in the National Review Online, about comments that then-Senator Barack Obama made in November 12, 2007:

"After seven years of an Administration that has stretched our military to the breaking point, ignored deplorable conditions at some VA hospitals, and neglected the planning and preparation necessary to care for our returning heroes, America's veterans deserve a President who will fight for them not just when it's easy or convenient, but every hour of every day for the next four years."

In other words, blame Bush.

By 2012, President Obama continued to compare the performance of the VA during his administration favorably to his predecessor, declaring, "For the first time ever, we've made military families and veterans a top priority not just at Department of Defense, not just at the VA, but across the government."

Now we know the report of at least 40 U.S. veterans dying waiting for appointments at the Phoenix Veterans Affairs Health Care system is only the tip of the iceberg.


When Shinseki took office, he vowed that every disability claim would be processed within 125 days with 98 percent accuracy. But the backlogs only got worse.

They've got a full-blown scandal on their hands.

Let's see how the white house press corps will report this.

I check every day to see where they will give the president an out.

That's my point of view what's yours?

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News flash... There are 150 members in the Texas House of Representatives. And it's shocking a few would vote for the Brady bill or any other bill? Do you think all Republicans are conservative? Ever hear of a RINO?

But don, the NRA supported the Brady bill. You did know that, didn't you? As long as it was 'instant background check' they were ok with it.

And so pete, being a disgruntled liberal, wishes death and pain on others. Typical liberal.

But I forgive you pete. Hope you find your way.

News Flash
Republicans want to take your guns
H.R. 1025 (103rd): Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act
passed both houses of Congress with the help of Texas Republican Congressmen and Republican Texas Senator
source The Library of Congress

News Flash
14 Texas “Republican” Congressmen vote for more NSA spying
Sam Johnson , Jeb Hensarling, John Culberson, Kevin Brady, Michael McCaul , Michael Conaway, Kay Granger, Mac Thornberry , Bill Flores , Randy Neugebauer, Lamar Smith, Pete Olson , John Carter and Pete Sessions

Tea Party Candidates Defeated in Primary Challenges
May 21, 2014

I thought y'all might say that those are liberal rags so here is one from faux May 21, 2014
GOP establishment candidates notch wins in key primaries Republican establishment favorites dominated virtually across the board in the season's biggest primary day so far and Tea Party-aligned candidates falling short in several states.In Georgia two GOP establishment favorites businessman David Perdue and Rep. Jack Kingston -- are heading to a July runoff after holding back a Tea Party-aligned challenge

The tea party is losing
The Washington Post

Tea party tugs GOP to right even while losing primary challenges
US NEWS May 19, 2014

Dave1963, though I wish no fatal/terminal health issues on almost no one, I can make an exception when it comes to deaf...noting your first post at the bottom of this string, one wonders how ol' deaf would fare if he was, indeed, diagnosed with a fast-growing cancer, and had limp insurance or no insurance at all...we're supposed to pray for those who have no mind, who are emissaries of the devil himself, but it's about too much of a stretch this time. From now on, DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THESE FOOLS!

WARNING TO ANYONE WHO HAS A NOT enter into a dialogue with radical/rabid posters on ANY ketk site...we can't win with these blowhards and need to see what happens if the only people posting are the rabid jackals who populate this site. Though it hurts not to counter these clowns, we need to quit trying to inject fact and rational discourse into what should be a civil discussion of issues but is, in fact, just a prime source of militant rhetoric by avowed anarchist racists.

I hear now on the news the VA has tons of MONEY in the bank they have not spent.

So that means the Vets were what is called 'slow coding' at hospitals. They take their time at giving any assistance so the patient DIES while waiting.

And I bet, like the EPA and IRS, they have secret email accounts not on the books to hide their policy changes. If you don't know they have the accounts and all you read is their 'official' government emails that are subpoena, then it looks like no conspiracy.

Odummer has no intention of correcting this. These people have falsified federal records in order to receive bonuses. Being gross misconduct they can be fired. Odummer's statement, I'm mad about this and we're going to do studies on it to see what's happen. We've heard this from him before. As before, they'll "look and look", but no action will ever be taken.

I wonder why George WMD LIAR bush and the GOTP did not fix this problem?

For the same reason the traitor Clinton didn't and can't find his butt with both hands Obama won't. And I would think that since a Dem is POTUS you'd think it was fantastic. It's called gov't and bureaucracy first and American citizens and Constitution be damned

And For the same reason the traitor reagan didn't . Conservatives/GOTP say its corporations AND THEIR MONEY are first and American citizens and Constitution be damned. Conservatives / GOTP HATE the U S Constitution.

Don and Towne Idiot,

The Tea party is really dead isn't it. Not in East Texas for sure. the election just proved that. Now the conservatives will take the senate and impeach your president for crimes against the citizens of this country and hopefully send all his cronies to jail. At the very least he will be ineffective and his veto pen will need to be surgically removed. I can't wait for November. I'll be there on the first day of early voting to do my part . You liberals are outta here

They havn't won yet. Guess you do not know how elections operate

only in texas tool....They have not won the election yet!!!!

You had to go to the worst of the veterans organizations to get those figures( The American Legion) they are known for liberalism and their bias against white veterans inpreference to minorities and women. Go ask the same question of some other veterans groups like the Veterans of Foreign Wars or better yet, break the vote down by age, sex, and race and repost the figures. And Don, be sure to talk to an equal number of vets from each group. I'll think you will see the numbers change.

The American Legionare known for liberalism??? In Texas????? You just exposed yourself as being an ignorant individual tcc!!

So how did Republicans in the SENATE block anything? The DEMOCRATS CONTROL THE SENATE.

So that just does not compute....


And that is a fact.

Guess you do not know how the Senate works or the Senate Rules

dave1963 stated This February Senate Republicans blocked an increase in VA spending. Presidents don't write or pass legislation yet.


So hope for change in 2014. Vote all REPUBLICANS out. Do it for OUR VETS!

I don't need to justify my comments to a liberal democrat who loves Hilary Clinton and Barack Obuma. You only mark one line on your ballot, (Straight Democrat). At least I do read the ballot and would never vote a straight party ticket. What mess you say. I say look around you fool. If you can's see what kind of condition this country is in then you have been living on another planet. The people who vote have no choice but to vote the democrats out in November.

One thing I know for a FACT is that the mess is not as big as it was under george WMD LIAR bush. This Nation is not losing 300 to 700 thousand jobs EVERY MONTH, we are not going to war based on lies, wall street is at an all time high and workers are not going broke in their 401K's , the VA is now automated (under bush they were still pushing paper), more people are insured and receiving the health care that they need, consumers in Tx received more than 40 million $ in rebates from big insurance

News flash! CNN's John King reports that Democrats are privately calling President Obama "detached," "flat footed," and "incompetent."

Not surprised, right?

Also, Florida WBBH-TV reporter Andy Pierrotti managed to track down dozens of local residents who were (a) both non-US citizens and (b) registered to vote in the swing state.

And that is why VOTER ID is necessary.

FLASHBACK Obama 2008: VA to be 'leader of national health-care reform'...

Obama PROMISED he would fix the VA back in 2008. But like all of his promises, they have expiration dates. His expiration date on the VA was when he was elected... then he TURNED HIS BACK ON THE VA and all veterans.

And they will REMEMBER THIS in November 2014.

Vote dems out to send a message to Obama. Do it for the Vets!

Lets see now, who was President in 2008 dumb smith?

So hope for change in 2014. Vote all REPUBLICANS out. Do it for OUR VETS!

On November 7, 2011 President Obama introduced new resources created to help veterans translate their military skills for the civilian workforce.
•Veteran Gold Card
•My Next Move for Veterans
•Veterans Job Bank
The Recovery Act (the one the GOTP was against) provided the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America’s Veterans

President Obama signed the "VOW to Hire Heroes Act" into law on November 21, 2011. The Returning Heroes Tax Credit provides businesses that hire unemployed veterans and the Wounded Warriors Tax Credit offers businesses that hire veterans with service-connected disabilities.

On August 31, 2012 President Obama signed an Executive Order that strengthens suicide prevention efforts across the Force and in the veteran community and improves access to mental health services for veterans, service members, and military families members.

The American Legion
Among the last five U.S. presidents, which one has done the most for veterans?
Barack Obama 29%
George W. Bush 16
Bill Clinton 11
George H.W. Bush 7
Ronald Reagan 37
I would love to see a list of the things that President Bush did for veterans. Look at the budget he approved for the VA compared to President Obama .I would be equally interested in what Reagan did for veterans.

Would Hillary Clinton make a good president? You bet

Brigadier Gen. John M. Watkins Jr. served nearly 30 years in the Army and completed his military career as the chief operations officer/deputy director of the Defense Information Systems Agency.

Clinton was right on Iran:

Pat Foote, retired Brigadier General, served over 30 years in the United States Army, commanding soldiers at the company, battalion, brigade, and major installation levels.

You know, the posters here who say the GOP is 'military hating'....

Since when have any democrats like Bush helped a vet? Did Clinton? Jimmy Carter? Obama (hahahaha.. Obama help a vet, now ain't that a laugh.)

Tell us deaf what george WMD LIAR bush did for our Vets and Service men and women besides getting more than 4000 killed based on lies and thousands wounded and crippled based on lies? Tell us deaf what george h w bush or the first Trillion $ spending reagan did for vets?

Town Idiot,

Because conservative east Texans dispise Oduma and his co-horts and look forward to November when we will finally have a republican majority who we will demand that Obdumbass be impeached for crimes against the people of the United States. We also look forward to seeing the further evidence concerning Obdumass fake birth certificate that experts have said was completely false. Yeah, we blame him for this mess our country is in and we will not forget at the polls in November.

What mess?? Bet you are not smart enough to tell us, using FACTS and not GOTP talking points, just what each mess is that Obama has created here in the U S that hurt our Nation .

I'll have to agree that this problem is decades old. It goes back to the Korean War and possibly even just after WWII. I personally have witnessed the VA in Lancaster, Texas and also the Audie Murphy VA hospital in San Antonio. I had an uncle die at Lancaster. I also agree that this is what happens when the government gets to administer health care. Most vets won't go near a VA Hospital if they have any choice at all. I am convinced that all incumbents should be voted out.

By The Associated Press

May 5, 2002

Kansas City, Mo. — As part of a nearly $10 million cleanup effort, workers are painting and scrubbing the Veterans Hospital where maggots once infested the noses of two comatose patients....

The Walter Reed Army Medical Center neglect scandal resulted from a series of allegations of unsatisfactory conditions, treatment of patients, and management at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center (WRAMC) in Washington, D.C. culminating in two articles published by The Washington Post in February 2007. Several cases of patient neglect and shoddy living conditions were reported as early as 2004.


When Obama campaigned for president he said he would get to the bottom of the VA problems. THEN when he won, AND THE DEMOCRATS HAD SUPER MAJORITIES IN BOTH HOUSES, they did NOTHING.

So no, it was the DEMOCRATS fault. They could have passes ANYTHING. Obama could have put forth ANYTHING. But they did NOTHING.

So hope for change in 2014. Vote all DEMOCRATS out. Do it for the VETS!

No dumb smith, it is the fault of the rpublatards in the House for cutting funds to investigate and fix the VA

This February Senate Republicans blocked an increase in VA spending. Presidents don't write or pass legislation yet. They sign the bill or amendment that congress (house & senate) passes. Get a new meme Deaf. Our government is controlled by corporations. 57% of voting age Texans are too disgusted to even vote in a presidential election.

Report: Problems Still Plague Illinois VA Hospital

A 2008 investigation found that at least nine patients died because of surgical mistakes and poor post-surgical care at the VA hospital in Marion, which is in southern Illinois. That report made recommendations to improve conditions at the facility.

Who was President in 2008???

Stenholm Sees Hope for Lubbock Area Veterans Hospital
Lubbock, TX, Avalanche-Journal ^ | 08-24-04 | Chandler, Cory
Big Spring's VA hospital, currently faced with the budgetary ax.

Republicans and Bush cutting benefits for veterans in 2004 while they had total control of both houses of congress and the oval office

Vote the military and veteran hating GOTP out of congress in 2014. Go to the library of congress and look at the GOP budget that passed the house and see that they are attempting to eliminate the pension plans (a defined benefit plan) of our military men and women and turn it into a "defined contrabution account system"(401K)and no benefits. Just to stuff the pockets of their wall street buddies and if the market crashes our soldiers will be broke. Hope for change in 2014. Lets vote the GOTP out

Idiot... The VA is under the Administration. So the BUCK STOPS AT OBAMA.

That's how it's HIS FAULT. They knew of the problems back in '08. Obama let it slide and Vets DIED.

Hope for change in 2014. Vote dems out so the buck finally stops where it belongs.

President Obama was not President in 08 deaf? Who was Deaf?

This is easy to solve. Raid the pension fund for congress and the president, roll all the money into the general fund. The way Reagan raided social security. Then give all living presidents and all congressmen Medicaid. Let's stop this caste system in government benefits. KETK won't even admit that it exists. Republicans blocked increased funding for VA not Obama. All spending bills originate in the house which is controlled by the Republicans not Obama.

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