Social Security checks may get smaller

By Wall Street Journal
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 12:12pm

A little–noticed law could soon result in smaller Social Security checks for hundreds of thousands of the elderly and disabled who owe the U.S. money from defaulted loans and other debts more than a decade old.

Social Security benefits are off–limits to creditors, such as credit–card companies and banks. But the U.S. can collect debts to federal agencies by "offsetting," or withholding Social Security and disability payments.

The Treasury currently withholds benefits of 3.1 million Social Security recipients to recover defaulted student–, farm– and small–business loans, unpaid income taxes, amounts veterans owe for health care, and other debts to the government.

Previously, the U.S. hasn't been able to withhold Social Security payments to recover most debts delinquent for more than ten years.

But a provision in the 2008 Farm Bill lifted the ten–year statute of limitations on the government's ability to withhold Social Security benefits in collecting debts other than student loans—for which the statute of limitations was lifted in 1997—and income taxes, where the limit remains 10 years.

This means that a person who defaulted on a small–business loan in 1995, for example, and who is receiving Social Security could be notified that his benefits may be reduced each month until the debt, with interest, fees, and penalties, is paid. The Treasury can withhold 15% of the benefit, though it can't be reduced to below $750. Tax debts have no floor.

The change will add more than $6 billion to the $75 billion in delinquent debt individuals owe the government, according to the Financial Management Service, the Treasury's debt collection unit.

A Treasury spokesman says the new legislation "allows Treasury's Financial Management Service to collect older debts and levels the playing field so that all eligible debts, regardless of age, are subject to debt collection. Treasury expects this legislation will result in increased collections of $10 million per year in delinquent federal non–tax debt."

Though no one argues that people shouldn't repay their debts, the change is coming at a challenging time for older Americans already pinched by mortgage woes, pension cuts and spiraling medical costs.

The shift applies to debtors of all ages, but Social Security recipients will bear much of the brunt. A Wall Street Journal analysis of Treasury Department data shows that Social Security recipients comprise a large and growing percentage of people from whom the Treasury recovers debts.

For years, most debt the Treasury collected through its "Offset Program," came from withholding income–tax refunds. But with an aging population and growing unemployment, roughly 10% of the $4.3 billion in debts collected by the Treasury came from Social Security benefits in 2008, the latest figures available. That's up from 1.6% in 2001, according to Journal computations that the Treasury confirms.

Though the law has expanded the age of debts that can be recovered, it hasn't addressed the sometimes–Kafkaesque process debtors can face when challenging the validity of a claim.

Consider the predicament of Dr. Robert Steinberg, the founder of Scharffen Berger chocolates, who spent more than six years and thousands of dollars in legal fees appealing the Social Security Administration's claim that he owed it more than $28,000.

Dr. Steinberg received disability benefits in the early 1990s while undergoing chemotherapy for lymphoma, a condition that ultimately claimed his life. Dr. Steinberg returned to work sporadically at a free clinic before co–founding the chocolate company.

Year later, the Social Security Administration notified Dr. Steinberg he was overpaid in the 1990s. In May 2002, with the matter still unresolved, the agency turned the debt over to the Treasury for collection.

In Oct. 2002, administrative law judge Gary Lee found that the Social Security Administration had never established the amount of the overpayment; had dismissed an earlier appeal "for spurious reasons"; had misinformed Dr. Steinberg and mishandled his later appeals; and had lost his file. He noted that Dr. Steinberg was "without fault," and told the agency to stop its collections efforts.

Dr. Steinberg died in 2008, at 61. His lawyer, Peter Young, a former staff attorney for the Social Security Administration, has handled more than 100 overpayment cases, "very few of which were accurate," he says. "Most people can't find or afford help, and give up very quickly and end up with painful offsets on a fixed budget."

An agency spokeswoman says mistakes can happen, but "over all, the process works."

A Treasury spokesman says the new regulations require agencies seeking to recover debts more than a decade old to give debtors the right to review and copy their files, make payment arrangements, and apply for disability and hardship waivers.

But a recent dispute about a student loan shows that even with these rights, a person challenging an old debt can face hurdles similar to homeowners in foreclosure trying to modify a loan that has been resold.

In 2003, the U.S. began withholding $173 a month in Social Security benefits from Annie Brown, a paralyzed 75–year–old widow living in a nursing home to repay a defaulted $8,823 student loan the Education Department says she took out in 1989. The offset reduced Mrs. Brown's benefit to about $980 a month.

Mrs. Brown said a granddaughter had forged her signature on a loan application. Her daughter and a lawyer spent more than four years disputing the debt with the owner of the loan, United Student Aid Funds, a student–loan guarantor that also was acting as one of the Education Department's 21 debt collectors. USA Funds itself farms out various debt–collection activities to others, which it did in Mrs. Brown's case.

Between 2003 and 2008, Mrs. Brown's daughter and Lynn Drysdale, a legal–aid lawyer in Jacksonville, Fla., corresponded numerous times with USA Funds and two other debt–collection companies it hired. One letter from USA Funds warned that unless documents were received "within 30 days from the date this letter was generated...your case will be closed." The letter was undated. Another letter required Mrs. Brown to refer to an attached document. There was no attachment. "I don't know how a lay person could maneuver through this process," says Ms. Drysdale. "Nobody seemed to know what was needed."

In 2007, USA Funds denied Mrs. Brown's claim, citing a recently passed federal rule requiring people claiming identity theft on student loans to obtain a criminal court verdict of the crime. That was impossible for Mrs. Brown; a statute of limitations for bringing a case had passed years earlier. In any case, she wasn't alleging identity theft, but forgery.

Robert Murray, a spokesman for USA Funds, agrees that Mrs. Brown's signature was forged. "It's absolutely a forgery," he says, "It \[the loan\] should never have been made."

But he says that USA Funds couldn't discharge the loan as a forgery because Mrs. Brown didn't return a required form in 2005, and that USA Funds must rigorously defend claims. "There are borrowers who want to get out of a legitimate debt," he says. "By the same token, we want to work with individuals who have a legitimate issue."

Ms. Drysdale, the legal–aid lawyer, finally sought to obtain a disability waiver for her client. That process took more than a year, and was achieved only after Ms. Drysdale asked for help from the Social Security Administration's ombudsman, who declined to comment.

In August 2009, the Education Department agreed that Mrs. Brown is permanently disabled, and discharged her obligation to repay the loan she never took out. The Treasury returned her withheld benefits in December.

So, can someone explain why the government does not go after money owed to us by other countries the same way the do us?

Watch the suicide rates climb amongst the elderly and disabled! This country absolutely wants to kill off its old and sick - those who can't produce revenue for the cheating politicians anymore.

We Republicans only care about abortion when it comes to the right to life. Who care about old people who are about to die anyway?
I also support Todd Staples in his decission to cut Meals on Wheels for old people.

how old are you?

What I can't believe is our govermentis talking about taking money away from people who already have nothing!!! There are many ways to make back the money that seems to be "misplaced". For one, STOP THE WAR!!! The anual costs are staggering!!! This is more about oil then a war on terriorism" I bought into that back when the world trade center happened, but, not anymore. How about stop being a worldwide police force and start taking care of our own problem? The people who seem to be running our country have forgotten about us and are more interested in lining their pockets with huge paychecks and retirment benifits. These so called poliicians have also forgotten that they are supposed to be working for the people, and not to their own means.

What I can't believe is our govermentis talking about taking money away from people who already have nothing!!! There are many ways to make back the money that seems to be "misplaced". For one, STOP THI USELESS WAR!!! The anual costs are staggering!!! This is more about oil then a war on terriorism" I bought into that back when the world trade center happened, but, not anymore. How about stop being a worldwide police force and start taking care of our own problems? The people who seem to be running our country have forgotten about us and are more interested in lining their pockets with huge paychecks and retirment benifits. These so called poliicians have also forgotten that they are supposed to be working for the people, and not to their own means. What about all the unpayed taxes that illegal aliens are NOT paying? Whatever happened to the " work is for the American worker first"? I have my taxes taken out, (when I am working). It is time for this country to wake up and look around at what is happening here. We are the ones who put these people in power.

Eliminate the pensions for retiring politicians. That will probably recover more money than hacking into a few SS benefits. Though the Constitution does not strictly forbid the pensions, it does not authorizes them. The Constitution ONLY provides for compesation while in office.
It isn't big business hurting or stealing from the poor, it's big government, the new aristocracy the leftists so despise. It's big government that is making the poor poorer and themselves richer. Watch, it won't be long before the very politicians that created this law will be boasting how they care for the elderly and are doing everything they can to protect them from "the greedy corporations".

YEAH SURE TAKE OFF THE ELDERLY THE SPECIAL NEEDS THE FIXED INCOME AND LOW INCOME PEOPLE. WE ALL KNOW YOU POLITICIANS REALLY DO NOT CARE AS LONG AS WE ARE PAYING FOR YOUR FANCY CARS FANCY DINNERS AND FANCY LIFE STYLES YOU ARE ALL HAPPY. WELL MAYBE IT IS TIME YOU POLITICIANS LIVE IN THE SHOES OF A FIXED INCOME PERSONS SHOES. I KNOW YOU COULD NEVER DO THAT CAUSE THERE WOULD BE LESS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY GOING ON YOU ALL HELP THE CRIMINALS GET AWAY AS LONG AS THEY PAY YOU OFF AND HELP YOU TO STEAL FROM THE GOOD PEOPLE IN THE WORLD BUT ONE THING I KNOW WE ALL DO FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IS PRAY UNLIKE WHAT YOU DO FOR US AND WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR NOT BELIEVING IN THE POWER OF GOD. MAYBE YOU SHOULD AND MAYBE YOU ALL SHOULD TRY TO PUT THE BIBLE BACK IN SCHOOLS.

Obama's government is scrambling for every penny they can get now that they have put everyone out of work. Where better to start then with the Seniors and the Veterans who they have used and are now ready to discard. Yet they can afford millions, billions on idiot projects,much goodwill welfare for other countries. Millions for the joke of a president to run all over the world trying to impress everyone on Air Force One. Shame on all of our elected officials they care nothing for the people!

First off, the law was lifted where they could start this in 2008. During Bush's administration. Don't blame Obama's administration for every little thing you people don't like.

monkey, the National unemployment rate (acording to the bureau of labor Statistics)in December 2000 was at 3.9 % when Bill Clinto left office and it was at 7.4 % when George W. Bush was in office as of December 2008. That was an increase of 4.3 % that the unemployment rate jumped under Bush. As of February 2010 the unemployment rate is at 9.7 % an increase of 2.3 % under Obama. LOOKS TO ME LIKE GEORGE W. BUSH PUT MORE PEOPLE OUT OF WORK THAN OBAMA. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT MONKEY.

What the heck is going on; first we bail out the crooks on Wall Street, Crooked CEO's in the Banks and Mortgage Companies, and THEN we give them bonuses...

We do not give the poor seniors a cost of living increase...and now we are going to
jump on their messley checks ......

This is not justice...this is GREED

Justice? Right? Our govn't doesn't know the meaning of. ie. The politician that killed a man when he did the hit n run while under the infulence of alcohol and only got his hand slapped. Why doesn't the govn't take the $ from all those big-wig bonuses that are being passed out like Halloween candy. The truth is that we are being pushed into a box for the puppet master to control and if we protest ( and that will happen) what then Martial Law ? WE BETTER WAKE UP and SMELL THE COFFEE !! JESSE VENTURA KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU ALL BEST LOOK INTO IT B 4 IT'S TOO LATE.

According to the latest figures (2006) of the United States Government Printing Office, Title 26 of the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations (that's the part written by the IRS) the adjusted gross page count is 16,845 pages. There is not one person in the U.S. who even comprehends the U.S. Tax Code, not even the IRS or Congress.
Now they are going to garnish the elderly's fixed incomes? They say they know what they owe? If they can't figure out the Tax Code how do they know so much about what people owe at all.

As a matter of fact, doesn't Timothy Geithner owe taxes also and there he sits in the Obama administration?

"To see what is right and not to do it is cowardice. It is never a question of who is right but what is right."

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