Texas Secession
What are the facts?
Governor Rick Perry mentioned it last summer and began a heated discussion in the press.
Secession…what are the facts and is it really possible?
“We’ve got a great union,” Perry said. “There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, who knows what may happen.”
It was the bloodiest American conflict…because all the soldiers on both sides were American. But did the civil war really settle the issue of secession?
“In 1869 the Supreme Court in Texas v. White settled the whole issue,” says Dr. Alex Mendoza of UT-Tyler. “The Supreme Court Justices in a 5 to 3 decision, Salmon P. Chase, said explicitly, that Texas never left the union, that the United States is not a compact of states, that it is an indissoluble union.”
Dr. Steven Stine of Tyler Junior College agreed, “White v. Texas, Salmon Chase, made it very clear that the Supreme Court saw the constitution creating an indissoluble union.”
So why did we join the union in the first place? Dr. Mendoza says, we shouldn’t look back on the days of the republic with such nostalgia.
“Was the Republic of Texas actually a success,” he wonders, “since it couldn’t provide money, defense. And men like Houston knew this, and as a result of this, actively moved toward the thought of annexation.”
“When Texas was a republic,” Stine added, “and we were a republic for nine years, we were always broke.”
And then there’s the great Texas urban legend…
“When we came into the union in 1845,” Perry observed, “one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that.”
“Texas historians call that mythhistory, says Mendoza, ”a combination of myth and history. Reading the annexation document, going all the way back to 1845, there never was any such provision.”
And the legendary Sam Houston knew the original secession was a mistake…
“He thought it would be a calamity,” Mendoza declared. “Up until his death 2 years after the original secession convention, he thought it was the biggest mistake Texas had ever made. The idea of carving out sections and setting up an independent republic with potentially Chuck Norris as its first president, is in many respects a pipe dream.”
Secesion would be great. Best way to get rid of numerous transplants who claim they will move out if Texas secedes. Go back to the northeast or California or where you came from. You and your liberal big government idealologies are not wanted here. As far as money- use the dollar until it is superceded by the Euro or the Chinese yuan. Military, we have a military. Immigration control- the only real concern would be the southern border with Mexico. It isn't exactly well controlled at this time by big brother. Infrastructure- one of the best in the world. Problems- yes a lot of problems but then again we will have more if we continue under the guidence of the U.S. Govt and its new found relationship with the U.N.
Wolfgang Sballs
2 weeks agoWhat's the problem with Washington? Texans seemed perfectly content to let the Bush administration do horrible things to them, so everyone should be accustomed to this by now. Why all the squealing? And of course, if we seceded we'd be clueless as to how to make it.
William Lamar
2 weeks agoI know this wont happen and we all know Texans are a very proud bunch. Mr Perry, we dont have time for this crap (by the way, when is the next re-election so we can boot your butt out of this place) and we think long term, not short term. If it should ever happen, I'll be off to another state because I rather be a citizen of the USA rather than citizen of the Republic of Texas.
Fred A.
2 weeks agoWhy secede? secession isn't necessary, and WHY oh WHY just sit back and accept what Obama and his Washington DC cronies do to you?
The states are the sovereign power. All they have to do is say "NO" That isn't secession its called your constitutional rights. If your state says half the crap DC s tries to shove down your throats is null in your state -----it is null.
Under the constitution we allowed a "federal" style government not a "national" government.
We are a "constitutional republic" with sovereign power retained to the people in the respective states.
DC has no authority yet bullies us day in and day out. When all the states have to do is say "no"
Bill W
2 weeks agoWhy secede? secession isn't necessary, and WHY oh WHY just sit back and accept what Obama and his Washington DC cronies do to you?
The states are the sovereign power. All they have to do is say "NO" That isn't secession its called your constitutional rights. If your state says half the crap DC s tries to shove down your throats is null in your state -----it is null.
Under the constitution we allowed a "federal" style government not a "national" government.
We are a "constitutional republic" with sovereign power retained to the people in the respective states.
DC has no authority yet bullies us day in and day out. When all the states have to do is say "no"
bill w
2 weeks agoWhy secede? secession isn't necessary, and WHY oh WHY just sit back and accept what Obama and his Washington DC cronies do to you?
The states are the sovereign power. All they have to do is say "NO" That isn't secession its called your constitutional rights. If your state says half the crap DC s tries to shove down your throats is null in your state -----it is null.
Under the constitution we allowed a "federal" style government not a "national" government.
We are a "constitutional republic" with sovereign power retained to the people in the respective states.
DC has no authority yet bullies us day in and day out. When all the states have to do is say "no"
bill w
2 weeks ago"We fly our state flag at the same height as the U.S. flag, ONLY state that can do that. "
ALL the states can do that. It's a code, not a law. And big deal, anyway. Quit spreading lies on a news website.
Kenny
2 weeks agoMaybe it is a "myth" and maybe it isn't. I was in Colorado when the city of Leadville was going to secessed from the state due to tax increases. Alot of people signed up but nothing happened. As with this issue nothing will probably happen. But since I am now living in Texas I would am thinking about this isue. Will it happen, a big NO.
How can Texas regulate people entering or leaving the state? What about the monetery system, and so many other questions?
We may not be happy with Washington or Obama's decisions, but we will live with them. But it does give us some 'bragging rights'. We fly our state flag at the same height as the U.S. flag, ONLY state that can do that. Can we leave? YES. Will we leave? NO.
What you have to realize is that Rick Perry is an idiot. Not all of us in Texas as that stupid. He is a Bush clonie and a wanna be 15 minutes of fame type guy. The majority of Texas folks think he is a horse's ass...the rest feel sorry for the horse.
Hopefully Perry will be out of office next election. Then he and G.W. can live together in Dallas and be 'idiots without a village'.
Bill K.
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