The Episcopal Church in Crisis

POSTED: Friday, December 11, 2009 - 11:18pm

UPDATED: Thursday, April 8, 2010 - 4:10am

Anglican angst...

The Episcopal Church is in a crisis. The election of a second gay bishop has many wondering about the future of the denomination…

More US Presidents have been Episcopalians than any other faith, but the modern church us splintering fast.

I’ll confess upfront, I am what is known as a cradle Episcopalian. And I like many Anglicans, wonder where the church is going…

In 2003, the Episcopal Diocese of New Hampshire selected an openly gay bishop, Gene Robinson, and ignited a firestorm in a denomination formed from the old Church of England right after the revolution.

“90% of the Anglican Communion is doctrinaire in faith and morals,” says David Virtue, leading church critic and editor of the website virtueonline.org. “It’s only a small cross section of pan-sexualists, liberals and revisionists who do not.”

Parishes began leaving, then whole diocese’s until over 700 have departed to form the breakaway Episcopal Church of North America.

"All the mainline denominations that have accepted pan-sexual behavior,” Virtue says, “will wither and die even faster than they were in the 50’s and 60’s. If you don’t have any sound theology, sooner or later you are indistinguishable from the world. In which case, why bother going to church.”

And now they’ve done it again as the Los Angeles Diocese chose a lesbian, Mary Glasspool, as Assistant Bishop.

Behind me is Good Shepherd Reformed Episcopal Church. The reformed church broke away over 100 years ago. And as an Episcopalian i can tell you, we’re outnumbered. There are about 2.2 million Episcopalians in America. there are 6.6 million Jews, 16 million Southern Baptists and over 70 million Catholics. the church can’t afford to drive people away.

But they are…

“I’m not surprised. Los Angeles is a very liberal diocese,” says the Reverend David Luckenbach of Christ Church in Tyler. “The Diocese of Texas supports the traditional teachings of the church relative to marriage. And the diocese of Texas will always support the traditional the teachings of the church relative to marriage.”

But Luckenbach says that like Southern Baptists differ from northern ones, we’re not New York or LA…

“There are Baptist congregations in the north that are gay churches,” he points out. “The Southern Baptist convention would profoundly reject that kind of teaching. The Episcopal Church in East Texas is a conservative church.”

The Archibishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams asked the American church to reconsider gay ordination, but the American Presiding Bishop Katherine Jefforts Schori says no…

“Well,” Virtue concludes, “When you believe as little as she does, you have to defend as little as she does.”

Other denominations have split before, the Baptists over slavery, the Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians. even the original Catholic church split east and west.

But with its tiny numbers dwindling, and both sides dug in, one wonders if the Episcopal Church can survive this storm.

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The post calling me a "complete idiot" probably just qualified you to join that list of sinners. Thanks for proving my point with your judgemental, crude name-calling attitude. Very nice "Christian" response. Look in the mirror and have a nice day.

Well Richard - you are so silly. Every person alive sins once they become old enough. There is a huge difference between being a forgiven sinner, as all christians are, and a person who does not seek forgiveness through the Blood of Christ. Sanctified, does not mean "SIN-FREE", it just means guilt free because of God's graciousness.
Jesus teaches to make good judgements based on the Word of God. Being judgemental is quite another matter. I am not at all judgemental. I can see from your words that you are very unlearned in the use of scripture.
I hope you decide to learn God's word, and become less silly.

Gay Preacher right here in our own city.How sick can you get.Tyler Texas is going down hill fast.

Actually no, not that I am aware of. The outcry is over the ordination of a lesbian as bishop in the
diocese of Los Angeles.

1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 disqualifies EVERYONE from the kingdom of God, not just homosexuals. Believe me, even you are guilty of at least one of these listed sins, so why do you focus just on the one YOU get to choose. One sin is no worse than the other, and I believe JUDGING others is also a sin. Enough already with the selective Bible verses. WE ALL FALL SHORT. I'm not a homosexual nor am I homophobic - I just can't tolerate hypocrits and judgemental "Christians".

Richard - you are obviously a complete idiot - be silent until you educate youself in an appropriate manner. If you cannot read scripture without becoming manic, please stick to Dr. Seuss. Those books were created for those with limited ability.

And the inference is that, in your opinion, the word of God is only for the lettered elite?

All the media looks at is the sexual orientation of the Rt. Rev. Glaspool. She is more than qualified to be bishop. The
episcopal diocese is autonomous and not all diocese are supportive of LAs decision. This is not a reason to leave the church. We partake of the sacraments together as one whether we agree with each other at the altar rail or not. Many people pull scriptures out of context in order to legitimize there own hatred and prejudice. Not so long ago scriptures were taken out of context to legitimize slavery and the abuse of women and children.
But what does Jesus say we are to do? Love your neighbor as yourself. Of all the injustice in the world whether or not this bishop goes home and cuddles with her life partner of nineteen years should not be on the list of concerns.

Jonathan,
you are displaying your ignorance when you refer to, "The Sacraments". (Things that make one holy before God) The singular and only sacraments that christians have, is the blood of Christ and the innocent life He gave to pay for our sins.
I Cor. 6:9 says that homosexual offenders will NOT inherit the Kingdom of God.
So, when ignorance infests the church through such means as yourself, the cause is rendered meaningless. Of course homosexuals are invited to the church. But as I Cor. 6:11 says, "That is what some of you WERE.." But those people repented of that sin to come to God.
So study hard JONATHAN -- you are just a silly liberal boy who would accept open sin in God's name. Shame on you...

The Greek terms used in 1Cor 6:9 refer to male prostitutes and sodomites and do not refer to homosexuals. This is a mistranslation.

The sacraments are defined as the outward and visible signs of inward and spiritual grace, given by Christ as sure and certain means by which we recieve that grace.

Read this from scripture and see if homosexuality in the church is acceptable?

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (New International Version)

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
I think that is plain enough. These people are not even christians, let alone leaders in the church.

In the big scheme, dwindling numbers of church-goers are a much more complex phenomenon, and that's why the problem is such a scary one. If it was this simple, it would be easy to see, easy to prove, and easy to solve.

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