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What's Climate-gate?

POSTED: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 7:05pm

UPDATED: Thursday, April 8, 2010 - 4:03am

TYLER-It's called "climate-gate" and the new discovery has some calling out scientists for what they've said has always been a hoax.

The argument has been going on since the 1980s and now skeptics believe they have a smoking gun, shooting down the theory of global warming.

The scandal now dubbed "climate-gate" is showing a very ugly side of climate science and perhaps politics. Hundreds of private e-mail messages and documents hacked from a computer server at a british university are causing a stir among global warming skeptics.

The e-mail messages allegedly written by some very prominent American and British climate researchers, brazenly discuss the destruction and hiding of data that did not support global warming claims.

One of the leaked e-mail reads, "We can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't," published by The Washington Post.

Other leaked e-mails show the researchers blasting those who didn't buy into their doomsday scenarios, even threatening them.

Pat Michaels, a climate scientist at the CATO Institute, was on the receiving end of the threats after one of the leaked e-mails talked about one of the researchers wanting to "beat the crap" out of Michaels.

Michaels recently appeared on Fox News to address the threats.

"The real problem here is the e-mails showing these guys trying to intimidate the editors of the major scientific journals and succeeding," Michaels told Fox News.

You can see James Inhofe's views at this link:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=inhofe&search_type=&aq=f

Pat Michaels and Dan Weiss discusses "Climategate" on FOX News:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHATItyOsdY3

Minnesotans for Global Warming made a video of "Climategate":
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/11/24/minnesotans-global...

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In light of the recent Computer Hack at the University of East Anglia, Norwich, UK., the information now on the internet, being referred to as Climategate is quite interesting to say the least. It has served to call attention to the political involvement in science and the question remains, are we in fact having Global Warming?

At the heart of all this is the question, is global warming caused by humankind? Having studied the subject over the last two years, I know that Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. However, I realize that there are many that have not come to the same conclusion.

In 1859 oil was discovered in Pennsylvania and for a long time gasoline was a waste product until the invention of the internal combustion engine and we humans found a use for it. And we all know that it has become a major driver of our economy.

The problem is how do we deal with CO2 if in fact it is a contributor to climate change. I don’t think by adding a tax is the answer and the idea of a Carbon Tax at this point with are economy in the gutter is not a smart move by politicians.

First, I want you to understand that I am not a scientist, I am not a environmentalist, but I am a advocate of alternative energy. I’m just a guy with a hight school education that is in love with science and technology. Two years ago, I did research on solar thermal energy and have since designed and build a solar water heating system that I have in operation here at my home. My motive was not the environmental issue of Global Warming, it was the high cost of energy. A Carbon tax increases the cost of energy for everyone!

I recently read an article Published by Steve Forbes, Forbes.com Special Report: Beyond Copenhagen, Eat my Carbon. What to do with the world’s fossial fuel pollution? Why not feed it to plants?

In my study and research on CO2, I do know that plants need CO2 to survive just as much as we humans need oxygen to survive. Greenhouse growers increase CO2 to get better plant growth and it is known that plants grow better with a higher level of CO2 introduced in to the growing environment.

We just can’t switch off all our Coal Fired Electric Generating Plants or stop driving our automobiles. Well then what do we do? Just like in the early days when we found a use for the waste produce, gasoline, through the invention of the internal combustion engine. We now can feed the CO2 to Green Growing Plants. We have found a use in the timber business for waste wood, wood pellets, which by the way when burned is carbon neutral. The rotting of wood in our forests produce CO2 and by using these products we contribute no additional CO2 to our environment.

The cost of pressurizing captured carbon dioxide and injecting it underground could be as much as $100 a ton. Injecting CO2 in to the ground would be a waste of a resource that could be used as a plant food. I can tell you that our farmers are paying way more than that for a ton of fertilize to get good crops growth.

Paul Woods, a chief executive officer of Algenol, a Florida start up company is developing an algae-to-ethanol technology. I know from my research three years ago on biofuels this was a good possibility as an alternative to fossil fuel. I have some friends making there own fuel from used cooking oil. These guys are making enough biofuel to heat their homes in winter and operate two trucks and two automobiles. Making fuel from what otherwise would be waste cooking oil makes a lot good sense. However, using virgin oil from food crops does not make good sense as has been demonstrated a few years back.

There is all kinds of great technology out there, using algae is one of my favorites. Growing a non food crop for fuel while feed it CO2. We have just found a solution to the CO2 problem, if in fact it is a problem.

In light of the recent Computer Hack at the University of East Anglia,CRU, I seriously suggest that we back up and take a long look at the science, the research and the scientists that are called in to question . I want to hear more form both sides because of the cost involved in mitigating CO2 from out atmosphere. I think the American People deserve a closer look at the science and what went on at that University of East Anglia,CRU.

We are not as stupid as Al Gore thinks we are and it is because of his outrageous statements and his lack of science facts that motivates me to be a skeptic in this whole question on Global Warming.

It is caused by the sun-spots and cycles of the suns temperature. All planets in the solar system have been heating. How do SUV's on earth melt the polar ice-caps on Mars? This is whats causing warmer weather and melting ice but this information has been carefully swept under the rug. Why? Because they want more TAXES and a tighter control of industry world-wide! It is entirely politically motivated.
They do not want an educated public, so do humanity a favor and spread the word.

FRAUD.....

THERE IS "NO" GLOBAL WARMING. OBAMA SHOULD BE "PROHIBITED" FROM GOING TO COPENHAGEN !!!!

He cannot sign away our rights on this matter which is completely FALSE. There should be calls for "impeachment."

All we need to do is follow the money, start with Gore and work your way down. We need not leave out big hitters like GE...

except for the mountains of data from numerous earth science disciplins showing changes in the environment and destruction of eco-systems and habitats. An ice free northwest passage in the summer? explain that. Drowning eskimo villiages---disappearing islands in the south pacific and indian ocean. Vast and undeniable changes in the number and kinds of plankton in the oceans that are the most important part of the ocean foodchains. Entire ecosystems migrating north. Look on Google earth-----WHERE IS THE ARAL SEA THESE DAYS. Shrinking glaciers. Breaking ice shelves in the antartic. No there's no evidence for climate change there.

The Aral Sea was used for irrigation, check out the book Pillar of Sand by Postel.

As of this leak, all data and research used in support of "Global Warming" is worthless.

There is no evidence of "Global Warming". Researchers must begin again, from the very beginning, and that appears to be from the 1960s.

Science and intellectualism has been scammed by cultists. They subverted the scientific process for money, and now, if something must be done about Man-made Global Warming, we cannot possibly know until the science has been completed, once again, from scratch.

To Act as if this fraud were real is a recipe for revolution.

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