Wow, pretty cocky comments from the Sooner crowd. How many players on your team are actually from oklahoma? Win a bowl game then come back and talk smack. Big game Bob--what a joke just like your parasitical team.

Did someone say "Heisman"?

I am a Texan born and raised but am an OU fan. I root for the Horns in many games but not against OU.

The TV commentator was very unfair toward OU and the guy really does lack class. Running up a score is a very subjective thing. What should a player do? Fall down, QB take a knee on every play? That's insulting to the other team.

Others have plainly stated why OU finished #1 and ahead of UT. They both had great seasons as did TTech. As Bob Stoopes said, the rules were agreed on by everyone. You can't change them at the end. I watched every OU and UT game toward the end of the season and it was clear, OU had the stronger team. UT should have beaten A&M worse even with their second/third team. These kids want to do well when they are on the field so it's time to get over it. Displaying good sportsmanship is not going on TV when your #1 opponent is playing and commenting on this situation. I do like Mack Brown...just think he should not have been goaded into commenting.

A Texan

How sad a day that this man is representing the great state of Texas and the great University of Texas. Please send us a mailing address so that we can send money for you to buy some "class".

Hey to all you OU fans and mburk. OSU, MIZZou, and #1 OU. I think that is a good group of ranked teams that TEXAS beat. I just cant wait till OU looses the BIG 12 C game. Then we wont have to be upset b/c Texas will slide right in to the #2 spot.

The comments that have come from this "Sports Director" definitely prove how clueless some people can be to the BCS ranking system. They also prove how much bias there can be in "News" reporting. I am a proud OSU Cowboy fan and, unfortunately, deal with disappointment every year. Let me just say that I am very impressed with the play of the Big XII this season. I think everyone needs to realize that we have all been guilty of running up the score on someone from time to time. We have also all been the victim at some point. You should also stop to think about the fact that Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford are both Heisman Trophy candidates, which explains why they have both been allowed to play longer then they should in some games. The BCS ranking system has been in place long enough for everyone to know how it works and that there are many flaws. There are 2 simple concepts that everyone should understand. If you want a shot at the BCS Championship and you are from a BCS conference, you must do the following. You must schedule quality opponents and you must WIN YOUR GAMES! If you lose 1 game during a season, you have left the result up to the judges. This is no different then professional boxing or MMA, for example. If you don't knock out your opponent, you leave the decision to the judges. The Longhorns did not miss out on their shot at a Big XII title and BCS Championship because of OU "running up" the score. They were surpassed because of the following fact. The Longhorns were 3-1 against ranked opponents and the Sooners were 5-1 against ranked opponents. You don't have to go back that far to remember the Auburn Tigers undefeated season, but no BCS Championship birth. This is because they had a weak strength of schedule. What about Boise State who will not get a BCS birth this year, but they went undefeated. This, again, is a result of strength of schedule. We all know it is time for a playoff sytem and until the powers that be realize it can happen and doesn't require rocket scientists to create the playoff system, we're stuck with what we have. It's time to break up the division in the Big XII and the SEC and any other conference that his divisions. We also need to get rid of the conference championship games. The top 8 teams could be playing round 1 of the BCS bowls this weekend at the Sugar, Rose, Orange, and Fiesta bowl venues. This would allow the semifinals to be played the first weekend of the normal bowl season, which would add two HUGE bowl games, followed by the BCS National Championship game on its normal schedule. If we can't do that, we should at least challenge the conferences that play championship games to design their system to ensure it is always Conference #1 vs. Conference #2 against each other in the Conference Championship game. I'm a Cowboy fan, but if we don't have a shot then I support the Sooners followed by anyone in the Big XII. I would rather see a Big XII National Champion then anyone else. I leave you all with this final tidbit. The Sooners had a great season, but they lost to Texas. Texas had a great season, but they lost to Tech. Tech had a great season, but got dismantled by OU. In the end, you all left it up to the judges and OU came out on top. Go Pokes!!! Go Sooners!!! Go Longhorns!!! Go Big XII!!!

Wow, who knew Danny had so many loyal viewers across the Red River...never thought KETK's signal could reach all those rabbit ears in OK.

I say give the man a raise - he must have boosted hits on his station's site tremendously.

Maybe I am wrong, but I thought the point of an offense was to score as many points as possiable. If you do not want OU to score - put a defence on the field that can stop them. Hey Texas fans...Eat a d###!

Texas was the last all white team to win the national championship. Texas's reserve offensive lineman makes a racial slur/comment about Barack Obama.

Based on this moron's logic it must mean that all Texans are racist.

The UT fans on here are stupid. For you guys to be so smart (as you claim), It amazing how you cant understand that you cant use head-to-head results in a situation with a three-team tie in which the three teams have beaten each other. Using UT logic, what makes them more deserving than Tech (who beat you). My question to the UT fans is: Under what circumstances would either Tech or OU have been more deserving to go to the championship game than UT?

21 points in the 4th quarter against a 4-8 team that could only score field goals isn't running up the score, right?

Bradford has played 38 minutes of fourth quarters, colt has played 118. That's more than 5 entire quarters - more than an entire game - where colt has played in the fourth where sam hasn't.

Nice work, guys.

And you complain about OSU busting coverage - when OU kept the ball on the ground?

And guess which is the more efficient passer? Yet, which has passed for (far) more yards and TDs? Fewer interceptions? Guess who has two more games to play?

Bob spoke his piece to the media because he was required to. When he did, he was always reserved. He has a point about tech. All three teams have one tie. Under the current rules, OU gets the nod. Blame the "system", not Stoops. As mentioned he DECLINED going on national television to speak in a game in which texas was playing. mack brown DID NOT. The first words out of his mouth after being asked "what do you think about these teams" went something like "oh, they're two good teams...two teams we beat." Very nice mack, very nice. You clowns might have some points but mack obviously has a history of this BS. This time it didn't work out for him.

Any other questions?

Oh yeah, if I may, "book 'em horns".

Better luck next year, ladies.

"Big Game" Bob Stoops is great at continuing to run up the score (not taking a knee at the end of the OSU game, just as one more example). And big scores influence voters that don't see every game, or are too lazy or too drunk to watch the late Saturday night games. And then you have the Harris Poll voters, like the ex-OSU media guy, that said he was going to vote Penn State and Alabama 1 -2 this past week, because, "They are the last two undefeated teams." So between the ignorant and easily impressed, we have a system where poor sportsmanship is rewarded with a trip to the Big XII championship game. Maybe Missouri will clean this mess up for the Big XII, and the right Big XII South team will get to go to Miami after all!

Danny, keep telling it like it is. The trailer trash from north of the Red River may not like it - but the ones that haven't spent all of their time smoking meth, the ones that have a little of their brains still intact, know you are right!

Wow......So many facts and stats being thrown out from both sides. Just a bunch of he said she said BS. Here is one fact I would like to see someone disprove......

Sat. 12-06-08, 7PM central
#2 OKLAHOMA vs #20 Missouri
For the Big12 Championship.

And there is nothing that Mr. Elzner nor any of you other Longhorn whiners can do about it.

Enjoy the game....I will.

Kudos to the Truth for already stating this, but I took so long typing it up, I’m going to post it anyway.

soonerfan4life,

Nice work. I did the same for McCoy, and I'll show that at the bottom. His total was 116:19, so 5 more minutes of game time for him, of course, no Div 1AA team for him to play against either. He did sit out the entire 4th against SEC member Ark, though.

As to your explanation of OU scoring in the 4th, and it being acceptable when you have to in a tight game, you might have wanted to dig a bit further. Of the 115 pts, UT has scored in the 4th, 29 were scored in tight games (OU & TT), 52 were scored by backups, and a 34 points by our first team offense in blowouts. Guess what, OU had 34 points by their offense in blowouts as well.

Here some thoughts.

Up 57-2 against 1AA Chattanooga, Halzle was throwing on 1st or 2nd down under 5 minutes to play. No attempt to go to straight runs to run out clock.

Up 45-20 against Cincy, with under 5 minutes to play, Bradford threw into the endzone for TD on 2nd and goal from the Cincy 2 yd line, after being stopped on runs three times at the goal. Run out clock starting at 3:37

Wazzou start clock running at 10:02, Halzle throws 1 pass, but on 3rd and 8.

Up 35-10 against TCU with under 9 minutes, Bradford was throwing on 1st and 2nd down on his last series. He was unable to convert a 4th and 7 to keep drive going, but they imagine he would have scored or at least kept driving with successful conversion. (Ball turned over on downs with 4:44 lest on clock.) Run clock at 2:32.

Up 42-17 on Baylor with 11:08 to go, Bradford threw on 1st or 2nd down, 7 times. Drive capped with a Murray rush of 2 yards after Bradford passes of 7, 12, 14, 20, and 17 yards. More fun, Halzle comes in at 5:18 and proceeds to throw on 1st or 2nd down, 2 more times. No attempt to run clock.

Up 45-24 on KU with 11:06 to play, Bradford throws on 1st or 2nd, twice. This drive is not successful and ends at 6:41 mark. Start running clock at 5:30.

Up 55-35 on KSU at about the 13 minute mark, Bradford throws into endzone, pass incomplete. He came in for 1 more series after that with the sooners back up to their goalline, but only threw on 3rd down, pass incomplete. Hard to say when they attempted to run clock. Next drive was fumbled after only 2 plays, but that might have been that point. We’ll give them the benefit of the doubt, though they clearly haven’t earned it and say 5:56.

Up 62-21 on NU, Halzle throws on 1st down with under 8 minutes left. Bradford is out, but sooners still throwing. Halzle can't convert on 3rd down throw, so only a 6 play drive. Running clock out at 4:01.

Up 66-21 on aggy, only 1 pass attempt in 4th quarter, nice sportsmanship! Start clock running at 6:12.

Up 48-14 against TT, Bradford throws his last pass (a TD) in the 4th. Halzle comes in up 65-14 with under 11 min left and proceeds to throw on 1st or 2nd down, 4 times, including a toss on 1st and goal from the TT 4, with about 6 minutes left in the game. No attempt to run out clock, although after pass on 1st down, they do go with 3 runs on the goalline.

So, looks like Wazzou and A&M where the dogs get completely called off, I’ll be generous and give you KSU as well.

Here's Texas in the 4th. To keep it short, I'm going to just list the times when Mack went into run, with no pass, 2nd and 3rd team mode.

FAU Last first team score a FG with over 13 minutes left in 4th. 6:14 Start running clock.

UPEP Last first team TD from McCoy with over 14 minutes left in 4th. 9:23 start running clock

Rice Last first team score in 3rd quarter. 12:38 running clock. Last 2 scores come from 2nd and 3rd teamers running exclusively.

Ark Chiles with 2 passes on 1st or 2nd with under 7 to go. Point this out since we were throwing in 4th. Last first team point in 3rd, with only score in 4th on Int TD return by 2nd team D. Running clock out at 2:20.

CU Last 1st team score is FG at about 10:30 mark. Run clock at 9:21.

Mizzou Last 1st team score a TD at 11:00 mark. Start running clock at 4:18, but we tried to start this at 8:37 and got a 15 yard penalty to put us at 2 and 25. Chiles then threw a 51 yd TD on next play.

Baylor Last first team score in 3rd quarter. Start running out clock at 11:55.

KU Last first team score in 3rd. McCoy threw on a 1st and 25 at about 10 min mark, after 2 straight 1st down rush attempts resulted in 2 penalties, also on 3rd down of same series. Gave ball to KU on punt at 7:24 and didn't get it back till about 1:30 left in game.

A&M 21 pts in 4th? 1st td, was finishing drive started in the 3rd quarter, and came with more the 14 minutes left in 4th, it was on a run. 2nd came before 12:30 was left, again on a run. This time our short yardage back broke free for 23 yards. Last TD was by 2nd and 3rd teamers and they ran on every snap in series. Start running out clock at 6:32, although after the 11:23 mark only 1 pass was thrown, and that on 3rd and 7.

I see UTEP, Rice, CU, Baylor, KU, and aggy. I’m going to say a single 3rd down pass after 11:23 counts as running clock.

Sometimes intent means just as much as success. I would say the biggest thing that kept the sooners from running up the score even more, was how ineffective Halzle is as a qb.

McCoy out of game

FAU 13:9
UTEP 13:33
Rice 15:3
ARK 20:23
CU 10:35
Mizzou 10:52
Baylor 12:58
KU 7:24
aggy 12:22

That adds up to 116 minutes and 19 seconds.

Bob Stoops did not "refuse to go on TV"- quit lying (fight your nature). He was all over the national sports shows early last week pleading his case. He also appeared during the early week Ball St game.

Here are some facts on OU running up the score this season:

Of course OU runs it up.

Against Oklahoma State, the Sooners led by 13 with :32 second left in the game. Oklahoma does not line up in the victory formation. Sam Bradford does not take a knee to run out the clock. Instead, OU runs a play with Chris Brown going for a run-it-up touchdown.

Against Texas Tech, OU leads by five touchdowns at the half. But that's not enough. Bradford throws a long touchdown pass to Manuel Johnson late in the third quarter. And there's more. In the fourth quarter, Bradford throws yet another touchdown pass to put the Sooners up by 51.

Against Texas A&M, OU led by 31 points midway in the third quarter. But that's not enough. Bradford throws to Juaquin Iglesias for a touchdown.

Against Nebraska, OU led by five touchdowns at the half. Not enough. Bradford plays the entire third quarter. He throws a touchdown pass to DeMarco Murray late in the third quarter to give the Sooners a 41-point lead.

Against Tennessee-Chattanooga, OU led by 50 at the half. Not enough. Bradford plays half of the third quarter.

Against Cincinnati, OU led by 25 in the fourth quarter. Not enough. Bradford throws a touchdown pass with four minutes left in the game.

Against Washington, OU led by 34 at the half. Not enough. Bradford throws two more touchdown passes in the third quarter.

Against Baylor, OU wins 49-17. Bradford does not come out of the game until midway in the fourth quarter.

Okies say Texas also runs it up. Really?

Against Texas A&M, Colt McCoy threw two incomplete passes in the fourth quarter.

Against Kansas, McCoy plays seven plays in the fourth quarter.

Against Baylor, McCoy plays just four plays in the fourth quarter.

Against Missouri, McCoy takes six snaps in the fourth quarter.

No big plays. No long bombs.

For all the Sooners who say OU does not run it up, you are wrong.

0U fans are delusional. Water is wet. What is new?

Mack Brown spoke about the subject very little leading up to the A&M game. He deflected the question and said he was more concerned with his big rivalry game on Thanksgiving Day.

Meanwhile, Bob Stoops was making guest appearances on every talk show he could find the time for to plead his case. He then held a press conference to say that he wasn't going to lobby and take the high road-- which was lobbying.

Mack spoke very few times about the potential [expletive] we were going to take. When he did, he was all class. He stated repeatedly, "This system is flawed. We have three really great football teams here in the Big XII South, and two of them are going to feel really left out. There has been great football played here all season, and I want to give all the credit in the world to OU and Tech. I just think that we deserve to be there. These kids beat OU on a neutral field 45-35 and have earned the right."

Bob Stoops continued to take pot shots at the University of Texas, Mack Brown, and even hinted that Tech was more deserving than Texas while spitting uncontrollably in the faces of his interviewers. Talking to that guy has to be like sitting in the splash zone at a Shamu show. Mouth breather. He also held a final press conference to gloat about being the beneficiary of an arbitrary tie-breaker and smugly acted like he deserved it more than the other teams. He went on to take further shots at Mack and had the audacity to claim he took the "high road" by not lobbying when in fact he had been the entire time.

Oklahoma is a filthy program with a sordid history of blatant cheating. It has seen its most successful seasons under morally bankrupt individuals-- Wilkinson, Switzer, Stoops. One would think this would embarrass Sooner fans. Instead, they deify these men.

Mack Brown exhibits class and tries to do the right thing every day of his life. He preaches that to the players. Say what you want about the guy, but his a first-rate human being.

Enjoy stealing this one, land thieves. The Horns will make you pay next season. Deguello.

Mr. Elzner, For your info the sooner starters were only in the whole game for two games this whole year . And i went to or wacthed all of the games this year and i never say the scoreboard past 61 ponits all year long so there

Pretty well said KCSoonerfan1, and after reading about how Texas kept Colt McKoy in the game into the fourth quarter against a very outmanned outfit in the Aggies..gulp..a team defeated by Baylor, I wonder how Danny was able to bring up any team playing starters past a certain point in a game

If Stoops is running it up, would you care to explain this little tidbit?

4th quarter scoring in 2008:

OU 72
OU opponents 78

& this includes a 24-15 advanatage in the 4th quarter last Saturday when OU had no choice but to keep scoring due to OSU's offensive success.

UT 115
UT Opponents 61

Yeah, Stoops runs it up, Mack doesn't. What a heartless jerk.

Neither the Oklahoma football team,nor its coaches, had anything to do with the Big 12 tie-breaker and the BCS polls.
You should remember that it was Mack Brown who went on every tv broadcast available to lobby for UT and it was Bov Stoops who refused to go in tv - especially during the Texas/Texas A&M game.
Your lack of class is obviously a reflection of the classless acts of Mack Brown and ESPN/ABC.

You do know that point differential was removed from computer rankings, and the OU coaching staff declined to be interviewed during games in which they were not playing, right?

Danny,
I have always been a big fan of yours. I love your Excellence Awards and your coverage of sports.
I was really surprised at your commentary last night. I thought it was really in bad taste.
I will of course admit that I am an Aggie. I was not wanting tu to get to go the big 12 championship but I haven't been blasting them. I expected the way you were going that you were gonna blame Mike Sherman and the Aggies for being such a sorry team and that hurt tu's ratings in the computer. You blamed everyone else. I can only assume that you are a Texas graduate. I think it would show a whole lot more "class" if y'all took it well and moved on to the bowl games ahead, instead of all the whining. It looks kind of childish to me.
You insulted a whole state. You made our state look like a bunch of whiners. There are lot of us that are really glad that tu is not in the championship game. Yes, I am a Texan but never a Longhorn fan. This is just 1 of the reasons why.
I for one respect Bob Stoops and some of the decisions that he has made. Kicking starters off the team for breaking the rules. Whoever heard of such a NO CLASS thing to do.
None of our coaches or players are perfect. I think you owe an apology to OU and Bob Stoops.

The orange of Danny shows up again..I suggest he indeed read Gil Lebreton in the Fort Worth Star Telegram, as it brings to light the many whines and 'dines' of past Texas teams. Heck good as it is, it doesn't even mention Texas a few years back, again very good, but not quite good enough, so somehow they get into a 'home bowl' in San Antionio, and low and behold bring in a team that barely made it to .500, the Iowa Hawkeyes. Had to hold on for dear life too, if I remmember correctly.
By the Way Danny, there's a town north of you, Winnsboro, that plays pretty darn good H.S. football and it seems to me I might have heard one or two scores over the past four years being mentioned on your sports segment. Perhaps those were only after a game or two in the play offs.